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Fofacut

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I've had a 2 bog standard Vauxhall Zafiras which have been great. Looking to change now probably a one year old used car or even brand new dependent upon offer/ price. Thinking of Skoda Karoq 1.5 TS1, first choice or maybe Seat Ateca 1.5 TS1 or Hyundai Tucson 1.6 GDI SENAV, any advice ?
 
I got rid of my 1.6 Zafira about a year ago, nothing wrong with it despite being 12 years old. was a cracking motor. Just fancied something with a bit more power/a bit nicer now the kids are a bit older and their grandparents don't get down to visit us these days so we'd be doing more trips up the road (well that was the plan before Covid hit!)

I got a really good deal on a Ford Kuga 2.0l TDI from a dealer that buys and sells ex-mobility cars, and it's a brilliant car, tons of power, cleaner than the Zafira and half the price for road tax. I'd definitely recommend. Only had 9,000 miles on the clock, 16 Reg, picked it up for £13k which was a steal!
 
I had a 1.6 Tuscon as a hire car last year. I was really disappointed in the power and drive, it felt very heavy. Was comfy to drive a 300+ mile journey in. Felt like the body was too big for the engine.
 
Dopes it have to be an SUV/Crossover? Why not treat yourself to a decent saloon or hatchback? They'd be cheaper and better performing than the equivalent crossover
 
The price of brand new cars has increased a lot since 2016 in my experience maybe because of increased tech and decline in the £ and to pay for all these 0% personal finance deals - if I was say spending money on a replacement vehicle and had different ways to pay go very good used. I can't help on brands of SUVs.
 
Fofacut said:
I've had a 2 bog standard Vauxhall Zafiras which have been great. Looking to change now probably a one year old used car or even brand new dependent upon offer/ price. Thinking of Skoda Karoq 1.5 TS1, first choice or maybe Seat Ateca 1.5 TS1 or Hyundai Tucson 1.6 GDI SENAV, any advice ?
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Karoq looks a decent car, a bit more expensive than an Octavia with a larger boot.
 
Motorpoint specialise in nearly new cars upto about 1 year old.
Basically a new car with the 1st years mega depreciation knocked off.
Mainly ex rentals, low mileage.
Worth a look on the website for the models you are after....
 
Had a Tuscon as a hire in the states. Nice enough but had a Mazda CX 5 next time I was there it was superior in all ways. Much better quality and great toys.
 
Ex rental and low mileage - I always think rental cars do more miles - and of course 100 different drivers in 12 months does not help the car. The quick depreciation has a reason like ex - driving school cars.
 
Rental companies change their vehicles regularly so they don't have time to rack up high mileages. They will also be stringently maintained and checked, more so than the average used vehicle at a dealership. It's doubtful that a vehicle having many short term drivers would be in anyway detrimental compared to average. But a thing to watch out for would be perceived value. You'd want to know the best possible price that would be available if buying new. Furthermore, you'd likely get much better value at an auction in normal times - auction prices are currently high but will start to fall later in the year.
 
JustTheGent said:
Rental companies change their vehicles regularly so they don't have time to rack up high mileages. They will also be stringently maintained and checked, more so than the average used vehicle at a dealership. It's doubtful that a vehicle having many short term drivers would be in anyway detrimental compared to average. But a thing to watch out for would be perceived value. You'd want to know the best possible price that would be available if buying new. Furthermore, you'd likely get much better value at an auction in normal times - auction prices are currently high but will start to fall later in the year.
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It really would be detrimental. I know I'm not the only one who drives a rental way more vigorously than my own car. Pretty much everyone know that's if you don't have to maintain the gearbox or replace the clutch at some point, you're going to rag it.
 
SmallTown said:
It really would be detrimental. I know I'm not the only one who drives a rental way more vigorously than my own car. Pretty much everyone know that's if you don't have to maintain the gearbox or replace the clutch at some point, you're going to rag it.
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I think it's a misconception that hire cars are ragged, for me the opposite is true when I have a hire car. The last thing I want to do is have an accident or a bump.
I bought an 11 month old family car ex rental with 9000 miles on the clock. Absolutely mint condition as new....£13k off list price. Still 2 years on warranty...
 
If I was getting an ex-rental I'd want an auto. I don't rag it just because I'm in a rental but if it's a manual it can take a couple of starts to find the bite on the clutch and there is a far higher chance of missing it and doing some damage, especially on a hill. Imagine that scenario every person that rents it and it adds up. It's not necessarily intentional but it happens.

I'd have no problem taking an ex-lease. I've had 2 ex-motobility that were 3 years old with 12k on the clock and they've been fine.
 
Best choice I made after buying 2 brand new was to get an 8 month old with 5k on the clock. It was owned by the sales manager of the dealership. This meant I was able to get a high spec vehicle in perfect nick, well looked after, and still with plenty of warranty. The same spec vehicle new would have been about £16k more, so for the sake of being previously owned, I get the benefit of a car I wouldn't have paid that much for ordinarily, and someone else has taken the depreciation hit
 
At last common sense is appearing, never ever buy brand new its like burning money,leasing isn't much better as your essentially paying for the depreciation.
 
Many years ago I used to work in car rental for an international company. We used to keep the car for 3 months as they were given to us by the manufacturer and would end up back on their second hand car lot. Yes they were driven hard, but not abused. They were cleaned but hardly got a proper service, didn't clock up the mileage to reach a service point. The cars would do a few hundred miles per rental period, that is probably lower wear and tear than someone running into work or school everyday when the engines don't get warm.
I would buy one again and sell when it got between 60-80k miles but wouldnt keep one long term.
 
turnoffsaysthestar said:
At last common sense is appearing, never ever buy brand new its like burning money,leasing isn't much better as your essentially paying for the depreciation.
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Some people are happy spending x amount per month on a car. It can work out the same on a monthly basis to buy brand new than it can to buy second hand. You won't own it at the end of the deal so in the long run it is more expensive but there might be less, or no, upfront cost so it is more affordable. For people that don't have £15k cash or the ability to take out a £15k loan but they can get a lease or PCP then it works for them.
 
boromike85 said:
Some people are happy spending x amount per month on a car. It can work out the same on a monthly basis to buy brand new than it can to buy second hand. You won't own it at the end of the deal so in the long run it is more expensive but there might be less, or no, upfront cost so it is more affordable. For people that don't have £15k cash or the ability to take out a £15k loan but they can get a lease or PCP then it works for them.
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I like PCP, ive had a few cars that way and my current one is on a PCP thats due to end in October. Im thinking of buying it outright for the balloon payment - has anyone ever negotiated this figure down?
 
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