Most Important Bands of AT

The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
If you're going to look at the birth of hip hop then it's got to be DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaattaa and Grandmaster Flash who were running the original block parties and started to mix and scratch, as well as paving the way for the B-boys who helped define hip hop culture, which in turn paved the way for people like Kanye, Jay-Z and the Beasties.

I'm not sure that Public Enemy are name checking Blondie as an influence, even if she brought it to a white audience who perhaps wouldn't have heard it.
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Sorry, no I wasn't looking for the birth but at who brought it mainstream and thus created a big influence.
 
Brian Marwood said:
Sorry, no I wasn't looking for the birth but at who brought it mainstream and thus created a big influence.
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But without any of the 3 mentioned there, there would be no Sugarhill Gang, no Beasties etc. Someone like Grandmaster Flash had a massive influence, and The Message is regularly cited as one of the most influential songs of all time.
 
How about early mid 90s boybands that would sit on a stool singing some s***y rnb song, then when they key changes they all stand up to sing the last verse on their feet. I'm saying it's boyz2men that first did this.

By 1995 if you were a boy band and you weren't sitting on any stools you could **** right off.

Then take that came along and turned everything supergay for a couple of years. Stools out. Curtains and flappy hand dancing in.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
If you're going to look at the birth of hip hop then it's got to be DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaattaa and Grandmaster Flash who were running the original block parties and started to mix and scratch, as well as paving the way for the B-boys who helped define hip hop culture, which in turn paved the way for people like Kanye, Jay-Z and the Beasties.

I'm not sure that Public Enemy are name checking Blondie as an influence, even if she brought it to a white audience who perhaps wouldn't have heard it.
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Flash invented the slipmat
 
Brian Marwood said:
Hmmm Rappers Delight was 1979 and Rapture was 1980. The scene was almost over by then.
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When it comes to "bringing it to the masses", I guess the question is, is 36 on the billboard chart bringing it to the masses (Rappers delight), or number 1 bringing it to the masses (Rapture).

I'd say that both songs had a huge influence in the emergence of rap in popular culture, RD maybe brought it to a wider attention than the underground, Blondie popularised it with the masses. RD is a better track though.
 
BoroMart said:
When it comes to "bringing it to the masses", I guess the question is, is 36 on the billboard chart bringing it to the masses (Rappers delight), or number 1 bringing it to the masses (Rapture).

I'd say that both songs had a huge influence in the emergence of rap in popular culture, RD maybe brought it to a wider attention than the underground, Blondie popularised it with the masses. RD is a better track though.
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The question was " bands that have influenced and even changed history, culture, fashion etc"

Chart position is not a barometer of that.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
The question was " bands that have influenced and even changed history, culture, fashion etc"

Chart position is not a barometer of that.
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It’s not an absolute barometer but chart position of a genre that has previously been underground is an indication of it being culturally important. Most people didn’t know who the Pixies were in 1990 but most people knew who nirvana were and chart position reflected that
 
BoroMart said:
The first lyrics of Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino album are "I just wanted to be one of The Strokes". Yes they definitely influenced.


I'm gonna take the opportunity to once gain show of my bass I bought off Hooky :cool:


Despite their failing as a band and as people, this is 100% correct, I just wish they stopped after 2 perfect-ish albums.


100% the septics love them even more than we do. the youth of today love them more than my generation did too, I mean anyone in Norton in the 80s openly admitting to liking The Cure got their arsh handed to them. None of that today, my daughters and many of her friends are massive fans of The Cure.


there was a lot of synth driven stuff on their earliest work, I wouldn't say Coxon was really leading the sound, certainly not the recorded sound anyway. If you compare Definitely Maybe and Leisure, the blur album is more subtle, lead guitar fills, DM is a 30 foot, barbed-wire topped wall of guitars.....without a good stereo I find it almost unlistenable now, it's recorded as an audible assault of guitars, drums and bass at max volume. If you try and listen on a laptop the guitar melodies are barely audible over the driving rhythm
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I walked around Norton wearing a Cure t-shirt in the 80s all the time and nobody handed my @rse to me.
 
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