Morrissey coming to Stockton

other than Liam Gallagher, David Bowie no other single artist sold as well as Morrissey in my record shop i had from 2015 - 2019 , any morrissey collection especially the 12" sold very quick and for decent prices ....
 
The Smiths were one of the first of my own formative bands, and their work is still relevant nearly 40 years later, as much as I admired Morrissey as a lyricist at the time I'm appalled by what he's become and what he stands for, he's morphed into the very thing he mocked and railed against during his time in The Smiths, I also think the brilliance and genius of Marr's music, which allowed Morrissey the foundation to lyrically build on is much overlooked and his collaborative work has further enhanced my opinion that without Marr, Morrissey would have remained a peripheral cult figure in the story of Manchester music rather than being seen as central to the scene's development.

Morrissey would be a great subject for a biopic, his rise and fall, his political shift, his need to be controversial and in the limelight as a counterpoint to the quiet, bookish and shy persona he had always previously cultivated, his contradictory positions on so many things, like his own sexuality and his views on sexual violence, a complex character that has inspired so much devotion I wonder if he's ever truly at peace with himself or if he even recognises who he actually is anymore.

His great lyrics will be remembered long after the embittered man that wrote them and his dubious opinions are forgotten.
 
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I saw him live in Manchester around 15 years ago - great concert. And in the 80s this awkward shy schoolboy who was picked on at school for being useless at sport and gay, unsure of himself, full of self loathing, and uncomfortable in his Own skin absolutely loved The Smiths.

I stopped short of throwing any of his CDs and records out. But I simply can’t listen to him now. He’s just an utterly nasty attention seeking pr1ck. It’s nothing to do with being “right on”

Its much the same thing as I can’t watch anything Kevin Spacey is in anymore like house of cards!!
 
HarryVegas said:
Was a highly original, funny and iconic lyricist, and a key part of one of the truly great bands. Sadly these days I'd cross the road to avoid him. A poisonous, vile, racist piece of gammon. If he could have seen back then what he's now become, he'd have torn himself a new one in a song.
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American_Mary said:
The Smiths were one of the first of my own formative bands, and their work is still relevant nearly 40 years later, as much as I admired Morrissey as a lyricist at the time I'm appalled by what he's become and what he stands for, he's morphed into the very thing he mocked and railed against during his time in The Smiths, I also think the brilliance and genius of Marr's music, which allowed Morrissey the foundation to lyrically build on is much overlooked and his collaborative work has further enhanced my opinion that without Marr, Morrissey would have remained a peripheral cult figure in the story of Manchester music rather than being seen as central to the scene's development.

Morrissey would be a great subject for a biopic, his rise and fall, his political shift, his need to be controversial and in the limelight as a counterpoint to the quiet, bookish and shy persona he had always previously cultivated, his contradictory positions on so many things, like his own sexuality and his views on sexual violence, a complex character that has inspired so much devotion I wonder if he's ever truly at peace with himself or if he even recognises who he actually is anymore.

His great lyrics will be remembered long after the embittered man that wrote them and his dubious opinions are forgotten.
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Sadly, I've long since come to the conclusion that Morrissey hasn't changed at all since his days in The Smiths. We misheard, or chose not to hear, his true message.

When he railed against Thatcher and her destruction of the working class, we failed to notice (despite all the imagery) that what he was actually doing was to hark back to the days of white working class domination, in much the same way as many on the far-right do. Because we saw him as the spokesman for our generation, we simply assumed that he shared our values of tolerance and inclusion.

When he said that he hated reggae music and Diana Ross, or stated that you had to be black to appear on Top of the Pops, we claimed he was making a generic point about American corporatism in the music industry. Similarly, his complaint that the music they constantly play saying nothing to him about his life, must have been about the blandlessness of pop music, right? It couldn't possibly be a continuation of his rant about the influence of black music, could it?

In many ways, I think it's quite ironic that the vast majority of Morrissey's fans have completely different views and values from him, and therefore hear a different message from the one he conveys. Like all devotees of The Smiths, I've had to come to terms with his true character over the years and convince myself that it's possible to separate the art from the artist.

That doesn't, however, stretch to paying him more money to see him perform, regardless of how local that is.
 
The other thing that puzzles me about supposedly loyal patriots and anti-immigration defenders such as Morrissey is their desire to live as immigrants in another country rather than the one they proclaim to care so much about, his mate Yaxley-Lennon is another one now living in Spain, if national identity is so important to him how does he square the circle of his belief in 'protecting Britishness' and his own alien status in the USA and Switzerland ?
 
I was a huge smiths fan and assumed he was the genius. I saw Johnny Marr play one of his first solo gigs supporting the Stone Roses about eight years ago though and my opinion very much changed. He was the real heavyweight in the band. The other bloke was just a flower waving racist with a Wilde fetish what sings falsetto.
 
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