Mono rail anyone?
- Thread starter Billy69_uk
- Start date
r00fie1
Well-known member
Thing is: public transport infrastructure is not about profits.
Since when did our roads make a profit?
Vehicle excise duty doesnt cover the cost of new build and maintenance.
Infrastructure is about improving "quality of life" -
including
- Access to shops and high streets away from car-centred shopping centres like Teesside Park.
- traffic free neighbourhoods
- sustainable cheap reliable alternatives to the private road vehicle
- children free of pollution outside their schools
- reduced cost on road repairs and replacements due to dangerous drivers and offenders
- less air pollution
- reduced costs to NHS for vehicle emissions induced respiratory diseases, etc?
chickenrunner
Well-known member
Why people have to be so negative when the area is trying to be forward thinking and progressive I just don't understand. I've seen the plans for this and one of the stops is going to be right by the Snow Centre. 
goalscrounger
Well-known member
Couldn't see the attraction of that.
chickenrunner
Well-known member
Two words ........................ levelling up
Two more .................. bull sh#t
Jedi boro
Well-known member
See it wasn’t a dream
A 300mph floating train giving a 12-minute journey time between Teesside and Tyneside is in line to be Britain's first ultra high speed transport system
Local councils across the North-east are backing an initial study into the system, seen as a catalyst to catapult the region to new economic success.
ANEC - the Association of North East Councils representing the region's 25 local authorities - will link up with UK Ultraspeed to form a working group to consider using maglev technology to introduce the system.
It includes a fixed guideway track housing an electromagnetic linear motor, maglev vehicles - each with up to 10 cars with seating up to 1,200 passengers, and an automated control system.
According to Dr Alan James, UK Ultraspeed's chief executive, the transport system "looks like a train but goes like a plane".
"The vehicles float on a cushion of magnetism and surfs on a rolling wave of electricity," he said.
News of the link-up between the local councils and UK Ultraspeed was being announced today by ANEC at a conference attended by rail minister Tom Harris.
Maglev is already in use in a transport system linking Shanghai's financial centre with the city's airport.
The North-east could become the pathfinder for the new transport system in the UK. Backers hope it would be eventually extended to link major population centres throughout the country.
Dr James said: "What the North-east is doing is taking the lead and saying it recognises strategic transport is a major policy area for the region."
He said the system would be extremely reliable - in Shanghai the timetable ran to the second.
The cost of a North-east system to the public sector would be pounds 200m to pounds 300m a year less revenue of pounds 100m to pounds 150m.
"But the benefits will massively outweigh these numbers. If you have strategic high-speed transport you double the competitiveness of that region and that means pounds 2.5bn of investment becoming pounds 5bn," said Dr James.
He said the fastest the scheme could be delivered would be six or seven years and only if all went absolutely to plan.
Councillor Mick Henry, ANEC's chairman, said the high speed link "could play a major part in promoting a successful and prosperous future for the North-east by providing the strategic infrastructure the region needs to compete more strongly in the national and global economy.
"Maglev technology is capable of speeds in excess of 300mph. It could cut journey times from Tyneside to the Tees Valley to just 12 minutes.
"It could reduce journey times from the North-east to London to 90 minutes and to cities across the North and Scotland to within an hour, thereby potentially boosting economic competitiveness and creating a North Britain Super Region."
Initially the working group being set up by ANEC will consider the potential economic, social, and environmental benefits maglev could deliver.
If the outcome is favourable, an in-depth study could then be launched into the feasibility of bringing the project to reality.
A 300mph floating train giving a 12-minute journey time between Teesside and Tyneside is in line to be Britain's first ultra high speed transport system
Local councils across the North-east are backing an initial study into the system, seen as a catalyst to catapult the region to new economic success.
ANEC - the Association of North East Councils representing the region's 25 local authorities - will link up with UK Ultraspeed to form a working group to consider using maglev technology to introduce the system.
It includes a fixed guideway track housing an electromagnetic linear motor, maglev vehicles - each with up to 10 cars with seating up to 1,200 passengers, and an automated control system.
According to Dr Alan James, UK Ultraspeed's chief executive, the transport system "looks like a train but goes like a plane".
"The vehicles float on a cushion of magnetism and surfs on a rolling wave of electricity," he said.
News of the link-up between the local councils and UK Ultraspeed was being announced today by ANEC at a conference attended by rail minister Tom Harris.
Maglev is already in use in a transport system linking Shanghai's financial centre with the city's airport.
The North-east could become the pathfinder for the new transport system in the UK. Backers hope it would be eventually extended to link major population centres throughout the country.
Dr James said: "What the North-east is doing is taking the lead and saying it recognises strategic transport is a major policy area for the region."
He said the system would be extremely reliable - in Shanghai the timetable ran to the second.
The cost of a North-east system to the public sector would be pounds 200m to pounds 300m a year less revenue of pounds 100m to pounds 150m.
"But the benefits will massively outweigh these numbers. If you have strategic high-speed transport you double the competitiveness of that region and that means pounds 2.5bn of investment becoming pounds 5bn," said Dr James.
He said the fastest the scheme could be delivered would be six or seven years and only if all went absolutely to plan.
Councillor Mick Henry, ANEC's chairman, said the high speed link "could play a major part in promoting a successful and prosperous future for the North-east by providing the strategic infrastructure the region needs to compete more strongly in the national and global economy.
"Maglev technology is capable of speeds in excess of 300mph. It could cut journey times from Tyneside to the Tees Valley to just 12 minutes.
"It could reduce journey times from the North-east to London to 90 minutes and to cities across the North and Scotland to within an hour, thereby potentially boosting economic competitiveness and creating a North Britain Super Region."
Initially the working group being set up by ANEC will consider the potential economic, social, and environmental benefits maglev could deliver.
If the outcome is favourable, an in-depth study could then be launched into the feasibility of bringing the project to reality.
r00fie1
Well-known member
Decent toilets on existing trains and sorting out the crumbling foundations of Middlesbrough Station might be a good place to start.
When is the start date for that project?
Lots of pretty pictures in the Gazette - but apart from the demolition of Zetland House, the station hasnt changed much in 50 years.
When is the start date for that project?
Lots of pretty pictures in the Gazette - but apart from the demolition of Zetland House, the station hasnt changed much in 50 years.
Anton_Berg
Well-known member
Take a wrong turning and you end up in the potash mine.
Unravel_Morrison
Well-known member
This won't happen. The government knows how costly tunnels are due to previous experience. The yet to be opened Silvertown tunnel is looking at coming in at around £2 Billion.
This has zero chance of ever happening; it's just part of his excuse trail of things that he wanted to do but was stopped from doing.
He's already admitting that he can't achieve what he said he would.
The airport will be next; the 400,000 air traffic numbers for this year will be because of something else. The promise of returning to profit by 2024-25? Not happening.
At Teesworks there was a £200 million shortfall in public funding that they somehow didn't account for; so they've ended up selling it for nothing.
Teessiders are often derided for being 'naysayers' or not getting behind the area.
It's charlatans like this that causes that.
This has zero chance of ever happening; it's just part of his excuse trail of things that he wanted to do but was stopped from doing.
He's already admitting that he can't achieve what he said he would.
The airport will be next; the 400,000 air traffic numbers for this year will be because of something else. The promise of returning to profit by 2024-25? Not happening.
At Teesworks there was a £200 million shortfall in public funding that they somehow didn't account for; so they've ended up selling it for nothing.
Teessiders are often derided for being 'naysayers' or not getting behind the area.
It's charlatans like this that causes that.
Unravel_Morrison
Well-known member
No. This is just their default MO.
Air Resistance
Well-known member
I seem to remember at the tees valley mayor debates a number of different ideas on how the transport money should be used, including a metro system being favoured by a number of candidates.
Ended up with the one who wanted to buy the airport, which in all fairness, he did.
Ended up with the one who wanted to buy the airport, which in all fairness, he did.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
Well-known member
You can't beat a bit of Disney to reel in the numpties at election time.
Same_as_before
Well-known member
I love Disney, including Euro we must have been a dozen times.
There is more chance of Mickey managing Burnley than that monorail.
Last edited: