Mitrovic - Now the dust settled

Norman_Conquest

Norman_Conquest

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After yesterday's unbelievable scenes at Old Trafford, what do you feel should happen to Mitrovic for pushing the referee?

I have just read that Chris Sutton is asking for a ten game ban for the incident and I don't think that is unreasonable. The punishment needs to be a deterrent to the mindless few who will think it is ok to put their hands on a referee or become abusive towards them.

My youngest son qualified as a referee and quit after one season after being threatened twice by parents on the sideline. The first time was after he sent a lad off for swearing and the parent grabbed hold of him at the end of the game. Luckily, I walked over with his tracksuit and was able to intervene, the second time, I wasn't present and the parent waited for him outside the gates and threatened to fill him in. He was 15 at the time and fortunately, other parents saw sense and prevented it from happening. He never refereed again after that.

We've all disagreed with the referee's decisions and questioned their integrity but our sport can't go ahead without them and for this, I feel the punishment meted out to Mitrovic needs to be severe.

As well as a large ban, I would also like to see Mitrovic complete a referee's course and be made to referee junior football to see exactly what a referee has to continually put up with.
 
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Its a straight red card and he should get the usual ban. It wasn't excessively violent to trigger anything more than 3 games for violent conduct (because he pushed the ref vs 2 games for "dissent") IMHO.
 
Where does the blame lie. Is it the Ref or the FA who will not let the Ref into the dressing room to lay the law down on what will and will not happen on the pitch. All around the Rugby Dressing rooms are picture on what Ban YOU WILL GET if you carry out certain actions. None of this board meeting crap, a straight ban without a hearing simple as that. Then the Axminister shuffle in front of the manager to deal out their punishment. And as for the coach, well where does the attitude come down from. TBF I've not really seen MC loose his rag yet.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
After yesterday's unbelievable scenes at Old Trafford, what do you feel should happen to Mitrovic for pushing the referee?

I have just read that Chris Sutton is asking for a ten game ban for the incident and I don't think that is unreasonable. The punishment needs to be a deterrent to the mindless few who will think it is ok to put their hands on a referee or become abusive towards them.

My youngest son qualified as a referee and quit after one season after being threatened twice by parents on the sideline. The first time was after he sent a lad off for swearing and the parent grabbed hold of him at the end of the game. Luckily, I walked over with his tracksuit and was able to intervene, the second time, I wasn't present and the parent waited for him outside the gates and threatened to fill him in. He was 15 at the time and fortunately, other parents saw sense and prevented it from happening. He never refereed again after that.

We've all disagreed with the referee's decisions and questioned their integrity but our sport can't go ahead without them and for this, I feel the punishment meted out to Mitrovic is severe.

As well as a large ban, I would also like to see Mitrovic complete a referee's course and be made to referee junior football to see exactly what a referee has to continually put up with.
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That is ridiculous (and of course in both cases constitutes a criminal offence actually).

Agree, it's not just the push either. In fact I'd say the aggressive putting his face right into the refs and forcing him to back off is even worse IMO.

As others have said, it's the culture in the game that the governing bodies have stood by and allowed to happen. That's what needs to change. Not even that hard to fix if they had the will or the balls to do it.
 
I didn't see the incident but if he pushed the ref then it should be a lengthy ban.

The reason I replied is that this is a subject that really winds me up. I've seen similar things to you in junior football and I also saw a teenage ref chased off the pitch by a team of men in the TeesBorough league. It sounds awful what happened to your son and I'm really sorry to hear it.

Its absolutely disgusting the abuse refs take and its a wider problem which filters down from the top.

The reason we have VAR is because football was searching for perfect decision making and we've now seen that perfect doesn't exist. Years of football coverage where pundits would spend 15 minutes at half time analysing a decision from 10 different angles in slow motion. And then it would be days of post match analysis where the refs would get stick for getting a decision wrong.

We've built a culture where its acceptable to scream abuse at the refs on a pitch and then ridicule their decision making post match.

We often hear the ridiculous accusation that refs don't know the game when infact the players, managers and pundits only have a very basic understanding of the actual rules. Then you've got the other stupid accusation that refs just don't give consistent decisions, the refs give one decision at a time to the best of their ability, they're not biased or inconsistent they just get some things right and some things wrong. Just like players who are making constant mistakes on the pitch, perfect doesn't exist.

Respect for refs needs to improve and it starts at the top, the governing bodies and officials could stamp out the abuse and cheating if we had strong deterrents. Aggressive behaviour, intimidation and swearing at refs should be red cards and lengthy bans, Rugby manages to do it so football could do the same.

Finally we could improve the game with lengthy retrospective bans for cheating such as diving and feigning injury. It would make the game miles better and officiating easier if 22 players didn't spend the entire game trying to con the ref.
 
Alzi said:
I was a bit disappointed the ref didn’t do a comedy fall like Paul Alcock when Di Canio pushed him.

Regardless he should be looking at a lengthy ban
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After that incident I expected to see refs 'diving' on a regular basis. After all it is de rigueur for players to do it so why not officials.
Also, having more female officials is inevitable. I wonder what effect that will have on Mitrovic and other hotheads and on how they are punished.
 
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Nothing extra happened to Bruno Fernandes for the same thing so why should Mitrovic get the book thrown at him?
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The argument against him getting any punishment was that the linesman touched him first. So they'd have to have punished the linesman as well. Not that it looked like the same kind of touch considering the linesman was stopping him from a confrontation with a Liverpool player.
 
Football will never get its house in order regarding dissent and referees.

In sport you push the rules as far as you can. In football you swear at the ref, crowd him and shout and you get the next decision. In rugby/ hockey you do that and you're off the pitch for 10 minutes.

It could be stopped within a few months.

Reminds me a bit of people trafficing. If there was a real will/ it was drugs/ guns it would be stopped within days.
 
Fair play to the referee for sending Mitrovic off. It’s about time one of them made a stand. He should he supported by everyone, including the Fulham manager. I don’t even know why they were so incensed? It was a clear deliberate handball, a clear red card and an obvious penalty. Well done to Chris Kavanagh for taking the right action.

Personally I’m absolutely sick of the dissent, cheating, play-acting, outright trying to con the referee and their assistants, the abuse. As has been said though, this could stamped out within the month if there was the will to do it.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
After yesterday's unbelievable scenes at Old Trafford, what do you feel should happen to Mitrovic for pushing the referee?

I have just read that Chris Sutton is asking for a ten game ban for the incident and I don't think that is unreasonable. The punishment needs to be a deterrent to the mindless few who will think it is ok to put their hands on a referee or become abusive towards them.

My youngest son qualified as a referee and quit after one season after being threatened twice by parents on the sideline. The first time was after he sent a lad off for swearing and the parent grabbed hold of him at the end of the game. Luckily, I walked over with his tracksuit and was able to intervene, the second time, I wasn't present and the parent waited for him outside the gates and threatened to fill him in. He was 15 at the time and fortunately, other parents saw sense and prevented it from happening. He never refereed again after that.

We've all disagreed with the referee's decisions and questioned their integrity but our sport can't go ahead without them and for this, I feel the punishment meted out to Mitrovic is severe.

As well as a large ban, I would also like to see Mitrovic complete a referee's course and be made to referee junior football to see exactly what a referee has to continually put up with.
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It needs to be lengthy, even more than 10 games perhaps. This has a trickle down effect, and the intimidation of refs is unacceptable. The game falls apart without them.
 
I'd be shocked if he got more than the standard for a straight red.

They need a serious clamp down on players surrounding officials and the waving of imaginery cards, from next season if they just starting throwing yellows out immediately when these incidents happened they'd soon stop. Players going at it with their mouth too, you see on TV players screaming obscenities at refs and linesmen all the time and sometimes the commentators even apologise for it because its so blatent, they should be punished for that. Bring some respect back into the game, they might not agree with decisions but they're all grown adults who should be able to keep their mouths shut.
 
The whole incident was appalling. Willian claiming the ball had hit his chest, when it clearly hadn't, is cheating.

Then Silva abusing the ref for doing his job is a terrible example to kids.

Then Mitrovic pushing and aggressively yelling at the ref is unacceptable in any situation, let alone when the decisions are crystal clearly correct, is utterly unforgiveable.

The Fulham trio let themselves and the club and their fans down big time. No doubt they'll get banned and fined but the damage to the game is far greater.
 
its honestly time football took a leaf out of how referees are treated in Rugby union.

Only the captains are allowed to talk to the officials, and any aggression or lip is rewarded instantly with a yellow car and 10 mins in the sin bin or a penalty awarded.

Could easily be fixed inside a couple of weeks if the footballing bodies wanted to, but they dont.
 
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