Labour reinstates Jeremy Corbyn

Seems like a bit of a u turn - I tell you what though Corbyn has some sticking power. Do you think Keir was advised to bring him back?
 
This was always going to happen, because they had no grounds to suspend him in the first place.

Like I said at the time, total political naivety from Starmer and his team.

For someone who’s supposedly forensic he’s put himself in a situation where he’s been criticised for suspending someone he backed at the election, and now he’s getting criticised for being too weak to expel him.

They had no choice but to reinstate him, Corbyn would have won any court case with ease.

Unforced error, poor leadership.
 
Pog said:
This was always going to happen, because they had no grounds to suspend him in the first place.

Like I said at the time, total political naivety from Starmer and his team.

For someone who’s supposedly forensic he’s put himself in a situation where he’s been criticised for suspending someone he backed at the election, and now he’s getting criticised for being too weak to expel him.

They had no choice but to reinstate him, Corbyn would have won any court case with ease.

Unforced error, poor leadership.
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Starmer didn't suspend him, that's the NEC's job...
 
Pog said:
This was always going to happen, because they had no grounds to suspend him in the first place.

Like I said at the time, total political naivety from Starmer and his team.

For someone who’s supposedly forensic he’s put himself in a situation where he’s been criticised for suspending someone he backed at the election, and now he’s getting criticised for being too weak to expel him.

They had no choice but to reinstate him, Corbyn would have won any court case with ease.

Unforced error, poor leadership.
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He wouldn't have been suspended if he accepted the report findings in full and moved on from it.

The door swings both ways in this.
 
Pog said:
Then why did Starmer claim credit in a radio interview and tell others such as Newsnight that he was consulted on the suspension?
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Which radio interview?

Being consulted doesn't mean you have a say. Employers consult with employees on redundancies all the time but never listen to them, to give but one example. It is also clearly defined that the NEC took this action and not the leader.

Look, I voted for JC the first time, then for some bizarre reason hadn't been a member long enough to vote for him the second time, but I would have. Whether JC thought what he was saying was right or wrong he was stupid to say it. The party needs to heal and a line needs to be drawn under his leadership which sadly proved to be ineffective - some of the reasons were not down to him but some definitely were down to him. By coming out and making his comments all he was doing was making it harder for this to happen and heaping pressure onto the party at a time when it didn't need it.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Article 10 does not apply to him ignoring what the leader of the party asked him to do, which he ignored. Hence the removal of the whip.
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Which specific rule did he break to get suspended?

Because last time I checked David Evans refused to tell the party NEC why Corbyn was suspended.
 
Primus84 said:
Which radio interview?

Being consulted doesn't mean you have a say. Employers consult with employees on redundancies all the time but never listen to them, to give but one example. It is also clearly defined that the NEC took this action and not the leader.

Look, I voted for JC the first time, then for some bizarre reason hadn't been a member long enough to vote for him the second time, but I would have. Whether JC thought what he was saying was right or wrong he was stupid to say it. The party needs to heal and a line needs to be drawn under his leadership which sadly proved to be ineffective - some of the reasons were not down to him but some definitely were down to him. By coming out and making his comments all he was doing was making it harder for this to happen and heaping pressure onto the party at a time when it didn't need it.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1326956975385681921
 
Primus84 said:
Ok that's not Keir taking credit or saying he was involved, he uses the word "we" to mean the party.
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That’s one interview I could find. There was many more. He clearly says “leadership is about tough decisions, and yesterday WE made one”.

Why do you find it so hard to believe he was consulted on this?

It’s obvious he and his team overplayed his hand trying to look tough and it’s backfired massively.
 
Pog said:
That’s one interview I could find. There was many more.

Why do you find it so hard to believe he was consulted on this?

It’s obvious he and his team overplayed his hand trying to look tough and it’s backfired massively.
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I don't find it hard to believe he was told about it but the decision is taken by the NEC not him. Why are you so adamant it must have been down to Keir?

He and his team? He doesn't make decisions on suspending members - the NEC does.

How has it backfired? JC has issued a statement backing away from what he said previously.
 
Primus84 said:
I don't find it hard to believe he was told about it but the decision is taken by the NEC not him. Why are you so adamant it must have been down to Keir?

He and his team? He doesn't make decisions on suspending members - the NEC does.

How has it backfired? JC has issued a statement backing away from what he said previously.
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Well his team briefed Newsnight that he was consulted...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322886291168612354
 
Primus84 said:
I don't find it hard to believe he was told about it but the decision is taken by the NEC not him. Why are you so adamant it must have been down to Keir?

He and his team? He doesn't make decisions on suspending members - the NEC does.

How has it backfired? JC has issued a statement backing away from what he said previously.
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When Jeremy Corbyn was consulted on Ken Livingstone’s suspension, we were told that was wrong.

So why is Starmer being consulted on Corbyn’s if that’s the case?

It’s backfired because it was heading to court and they knew they lose, as they couldn’t even clearly state what he’d been suspended for.

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Pog said:
When Jeremy Corbyn was consulted on Ken Livingstone’s suspension, we were told that was wrong.

So why is Starmer being consulted on Corbyn’s if that’s the case?

It’s backfired because it was heading to court and they knew they lose, as they couldn’t even clearly state what he’d been suspended for.

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So you have proof KS was involved in the decision making process to suspend JC? As so far nothing you've posted proves that.
 
Primus84 said:
Tell me something. When the BBC was running all its anti-Corbyn stuff did you swallow everything they said then? If not why are you now?
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So it’s fake news?

Journalists are thoroughly untrustworthy, but they don’t invent briefings from political leaders.

There was no outcry from Starmer or Labour.
 
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