Tryasize10
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How's Carol getting on, I wonder?
How's Carol getting on, I wonder?
Then it's good that he is listening to Gordon Brown. The more that pressure is put on the government the more they might be shamed into stopping this. People's lives will be massively affected by another huge increase - so I'd hope everyone put their anti-Starmer feelings aside, and call a truce to the criticismThank god Gordon Brown had the courage to speak out this week. This wouldn’t have happened without his intervention IMO.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. It’s a good thing. It just shouldn’t have had to take Brown standing up and speaking out for it happen. The concern with Starmer is that it took Brown doing that for him to act or show some real conviction.Then it's good that he has listening to Gordon Brown. The more that pressure is put on the government the more they might be shamed into stopping this. People's lives will be massively affected by another huge increase - so I'd hope everyone put their anti-Starmer feelings aside, and call a truce to the criticism
Then it's good that he is listening to Gordon Brown.
get’s attacked by ... Lefties who can’t get over Corbyn.
Of course it was. Its a well worn path. Have someone from the party float an idea or two and see how it is received by the public. If it is received well it becomes policy, if not it is quietly dropped with no mud sticking to the party leadership.Would be very surprising if that Brown speech wasn’t seen by Starmer and co. before he made it.
On the news now, Starmer (his team I expect) has produced a costed proposal to alleviate energy price increases. In contrast we have Johnson still play acting as Prime Minister whilst actually doing nothing, a Chancellor who is silent and invisible and two would-be PMs more intent on out-nasty-ing each other than proving they are a credible leader.
Oh and the sad spectre of Corbynites who can't move on.
It'll silence people saying why aren't labour saying "why aren't labour holding the government to account"I read that article earlier and it just felt like mud slinging. He's not in government, so what is him staying in the UK actually going to achieve?
Trouble is with cancelling the rise is that a great. Umber of people will have taken fixed deals to,lessen the impact of forthcoming rises, so those are then disadvantaged
Oh and the sad spectre of Corbynites who can't move on.
Because some will have fixed above the current price cap but less than the October price cap. Freezing the prices where they are will mean those people are paying more than others.Why would other peoples bills not going up disadvantage people whos bills aren't going up?
Because people who have locked into a fix in the last 6 months might have locked into 4-5k a year bills out of fear of bills continuing to rise over the next 12-24 months. They most likely have exit fees of £150 per fuel to get out of those deals as well. They may not have an extra £300 to get out of those deals and if svr is capped at £1900 when ofgem is forecasting costs to be much higher, unlikely to be anyone recruiting openly on the pride cap.Why would other peoples bills not going up disadvantage people whos bills aren't going up?
Yes this. I am active in quite a lot of energy debt advice groups and a lot of people have taken large fixes because as long as it's in the range of that the cap is going to be you would save money and insulate against future rises. A fix in Jan may have sounded extortionate at £2800 a month but now would seem amazing. Likewise when for fast to hit £3600 in jan, there were fixes around that level or up to 4k, which again already seems like saving money Vs the £4-5k cap with no signs of it slowing down. It's tough to get right because there is such a mix of circumstancesBecause some will have fixed above the current price cap but less than the October price cap. Freezing the prices where they are will mean those people are paying more than others.