Jonathan Woodgate
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nowthen
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You mean Woody was definitely taking us down?
Nobby_Barnes
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You know what I meant...
rob_fmttm
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I did take action - but wanted Jonny and anyone else that might agree with any of the sentiments to think about why they are very wrong.
coluka
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Hello
coluka
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Was that Woody's opening interview gambit?
JM14
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So by that logic should all of the threads criticising the likes of Assombalonga be taken down? Or is that different because he isnt from the area and you dont like him?
rob_fmttm
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This time next year am hoping we are in play off final or already promoted. That would be some achievement. Am not sure how easy it is to look any further than one season at a time these days.
coluka
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I agree, but would you re-employ Woodgate as Manager if Warnock failed. I would not, would you? I am gussing not too or am i mistaken and if so why?
My question is based on some supporters liking your comments purely out of their previous statements on fmttm and your comment giving them an easy out on their blinkered view as i see it. I am trusting of your view though as you have closer contact with the club. Is Woody far better and worthy of re-employment as manager from all you know? Would you be chuffed if he were given another chance? I appreciate i may be wrong but feel we should NEVER go back.
asredastheycome
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No none of us probably would but some have been going a bit OTT on this thread. If he was such a bad manager why didn't they continue to slide down the league. I think they dropped to seventh or eighth at one point but they dragged it back while we were going the opposite way unfortunately. Didn't he win Manager of the Month as well.
Some fans really seem to have it in for locally born players etc but will come one and defend players from elsewhere when they brought zilch to the team. Obi-Mikel for one Mendes Laing another(wait until he gets fit
). Even Patrick Roberts who for me did nothing but for a couple of bright moments was liked by quite a few. Then slagging local players like Wing, Downing, Woody(obviously when Manager), Pears, even Harry Chapman who had terrible injury issues but still got stick on here.They are only guys making a living like everyone else. Wonder how many on here a superstars at their jobs.
Donald_Pump
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Remember when you used to start a new game on Champ Man and one of the first few screens was 'Pick A Club To Manage'. Sometimes you'd pick Man Utd etc for a daft mess around season knowing you'd have a great squad and it'd hopefully be easy peasy winning most games. Most times however, you'd pick a lower league team ready for a challenge and to play a proper season upon season long game. Bournemouth represented option 1. Woody did OK. Boro didn't even represent a lower league team when Woody took over but considering the position in Championship he left us in then lets just pretend they where. He didn't last one season and was sacked. There was sadly no magic way in the real world to just turn off the computer without saving and replay your last few games to make the table lie. I believe he was caught lacking in both scenarios in the sense that look at the turn around in fortunes last season when Warnock came in and saved our skin. In the exact same way I'd similarly expect that if a better manager was appointed after Tindall at Bournemouth and with that squad of players then there may have been slightly more of an improvement as opposed to just matching the previous sacked managers attempts. I must stress this is only my opinion but right now Woodgate is mediocre at best and I'm so glad we are away from the torture of last season and especially the bullish monotony of his interviews. The very best of luck to him in the future though. Just not with us. UTB!
McBrid
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Definetly.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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I wanted JW to do well with us. For me, the big mistake was to throw him in the deep end. It needed a NW type appointment as Director of football to add support. Best will in the World, Robbie Keane was not going to do that.
festa5
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Thing is, that was his choice. He recruited his own backroom staff. When he was queried about the lack of experience on the coaching staff later in the season he was adamant he didn't need it, even though it was fairly obvious to most he was struggling.
It was the hubris that really annoyed me. Was never his fault, he "knew what he was doing", just needed more time, the league table lies etc. A bit more humility and some of his critics might be a bit more sympathetic towards him. I get the feeling he still thinks he was hard done to.
Suppose some might see it as self confidence, but he just comes across as arrogant and delusional to me. Self confidence is fine, but there needs to be some evidence it's justified. And while he was with us at least, there was very little evidence it was.
indeedido
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YOU get loads of unwarranted abuse?Woodgate gets a load of unwarranted abuse
I stick up for him and say it's out of order
I get loads of unwarranted abuse
Some people just love to hate
It was about winning the play offs, not a play off finish.
He started 6th, ended 6th and threw away a two goal lead when it mattered.
And you are uncomfortable with this thread?
This thread is absolutely lightweight and as usual you fanny around with concern in the wrong areas.
Woodgate was a terrible appointment here, he did really badly here.
He was lucky to get the Bournemouth opportunity and predictably hasn't taken it.
Only an idiot would want him back at our club.
I have personally experienced him and have watched and listened to all his interviews.
If that doesn't give me and people like me license to voice an opinion on a site like this then ban me Rob, it is not a site worth being on.
coluka
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I appreciate your personal viewpoint, particularly gpiven your involvement with the club. However there is worse vitriol aimed at real people on some of the political threads. There is one currently sat on the front page right now that aims more vitriol than anyone on here has said about Woody.
Colin Warnek
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Woodgate’s stock has risen as a manager for getting Bournemouth into the play offs and almost taking them to the final (the sending off was contentious in the second leg). He’s not going to get a PL job any time soon but you could see another Champ club taking a chance on him. How he got the Bournemouth job in the first place was the surprising thing.
Not sure why this would embitter some people when he’s left our club. I’m guessing there’s probably some undisclosed personal beef.
Not sure why this would embitter some people when he’s left our club. I’m guessing there’s probably some undisclosed personal beef.
TeaCider
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In what way was the sending off contentious?
He literally grabbed on to the legs of the Brentford player and dragged him down as he was clean through on goal.
You'd never see a more stonewall red card.
The penalty is more arguable, but by the laws right now it seemed a clear penalty to me.
His arms were up in the air and he stopped a cross with them.
Colin Warnek
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Yeah I just watched it back, i Thought he just fell over but he ankle tapped him,
Penalty was fine, he had his hands up.