BaronSmoggie
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How to just get on your feet and then be kicked in the b***ks again for attempting to climb the ladder.
#T W A T S
Johnson's Right to Buy.
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#T W A T S
Norman_Conquest
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The majority of council houses that have been sold since Thatcher (spit) introduced her 'Right to Buy Scheme' have ended up as buy to let investments and are in the hands of absentee landlords. The same landlords that are allowing their tenants to live in squalor, with mold infested rooms and leaking roofs.
Are we not trying to move away from this or are we trying to make living conditions even harsher?
Are we not trying to move away from this or are we trying to make living conditions even harsher?
Subbuteo_171
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It's an absolute crock of *****.
Let's start with a crackdown on private landlords including allowing tenants to buy at a reduced price.
It's not families / people buying thir own home that's the principal contributor to house price rises its the utter failure of government over the past 40 years to address:
The lack of social housing building to replace those purchased under RTB
The transfer of risk from the mortgagee to the renter
The tax breaks making btl so attractive
That RTB does not apply to private landlords
Allowing non UK residents to park cash in the UK property market by facilitating ownership with no occupation
Failing to effectively tax second home ownership
Allowing investors to strip communities bare by acquiring holiday let's in places such as Robin Hood Bay
For the avoidqnce of doubt Labour under Blair/Brown are equally culpable.
Let's start with a crackdown on private landlords including allowing tenants to buy at a reduced price.
It's not families / people buying thir own home that's the principal contributor to house price rises its the utter failure of government over the past 40 years to address:
The lack of social housing building to replace those purchased under RTB
The transfer of risk from the mortgagee to the renter
The tax breaks making btl so attractive
That RTB does not apply to private landlords
Allowing non UK residents to park cash in the UK property market by facilitating ownership with no occupation
Failing to effectively tax second home ownership
Allowing investors to strip communities bare by acquiring holiday let's in places such as Robin Hood Bay
For the avoidqnce of doubt Labour under Blair/Brown are equally culpable.
BoroMart
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It'll be one of these daft flagship policies that when we look back at it in 2 years and ask how many people took this offer up, it's like 3 people.
BoroMart
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Personally I don't agree with that, if someone is lucky enough to invest in a second property as a nest egg then why should the government take that away from them?
Now if you are talking people or investment firms with huge property portfolios that's different.
sherlock
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How is that any different to forcing Housing Associations to sell their housing stock?
Zoophonic
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Never has a man taken more responsibility for things he didn't do (he is currently peddling the lie he built more homes than anybody during his tenure as London mayor), make more promises about things he says he'll do but never will, or take less responsibility for the things he actually did do.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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It's 40+ years and that population you're talking about were put there purposely to weaken the working class by Thatcher.
The only leaders that have talked about an alternative have been ridiculed.
JM14
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Dont fall for that ***** the media like to spin
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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It was already tried in a pilot in 2015 in the west midlands, it wasn't continued for that reason.
Now it's back to give the working class Tories something to crow about, they don't know the pilot didn't work, they're not bothered.
Glover_elbow
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complete agree nowt wrong with making a big fat profit, out of people on benefits
BoroMart
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I would cap the numbers and the rental price if it's for people on benefits. In that market it should be used purely to ensure we have a flexible stock of social housing. The but you cut from my original post explains a but further, that I was also talking about individuals that want to buy 1-2 properties and rent it as part of their retirement planning, rather than the super rich property portfolio types and the wealth management companies. It's not right to tar everyone with that same brush as greedy profiteers that are stealing from the benefits system
Subbuteo_171
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Its not about tarring people with the same brush, although there is something fundamentally wrong with a model where person A puts down £25k on an asset worth £250k, then person B pays the £225k for them to clear that debt yet the only person who profits is Person A.
In all scenarios Person B should be allowed the RTB, be provided with adequate protection so that Person A can force them out for nefarious reasons, and not be penalised whilst Person A is rewarded.
This isn’t entrepreneurial, it’s taking advantage of a system massively loaded in favour of making the rich richer and the poor poorer.
WoodallServices
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I clicked “like” on this earlier but clearly read it in haste. Fcuking he’ll mate you usually come across a damn sight brighter than this.
You mean just like Asda and Tescos? They also make fat profits from peoples benefits; and are on the same level of 'Maslow's hierarchy of needs'. Being a landlord is a business, just like any other business. They invest, they take risks, and at the end of the day they either make a profit or a loss.
BiggEggo
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No such thing as a 'working class Tory'. Such folk are more commonly referred to as 'easily led fools'.