Joey Barton

Barton is quite literally just trying to drum up attention to aid his Podcast, he probably doesn't even truly believe in most of the tripe he's spouting.

He's knows his career in Football was over and had no other alternative than to bring controversial views to the X platform to enable his rubbish Podcast to flourish.
 
JackG said:
Only if it's untrue
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It is going to be difficult for him to prove that what he is saying is true without any evidence or convictions. Repeatedly calling somebody without convictions a "bacon bonce" could definitely land him in hot water. Whether you or anyone else believe what is being said about an individual(or individuals), without evidence or convictions then surely that is defamation and pretty dangerous.
 
Druss_The_Legend said:
It is going to be difficult for him to prove that what he is saying is true without any evidence or convictions. Repeatedly calling somebody without convictions a "bacon bonce" could definitely land him in hot water. Whether you or anyone else believe what is being said about an individual(or individuals), without evidence or convictions then surely that is defamation and pretty dangerous.
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exactly, it isn't their job to prove it's not true, he has to prove that it is true
 
Alwaysaborolad said:
It's more than just the Daily Mail, its most papers that replied to this news story, Simon Jordan rightly said on Talk Sport that, BBC, ITV and SKY are now appointing talentless broadcasters/pundits and are losing credibility with real football supporters who watch these programmes.

Also what's happened to free speech, Yes, Barton is brainless, and aggressive, but he is entitled to his opinions, same as you are entitled to yours!!! and i'm entitled to mine...
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Just on this point, we do not have free speech in the UK. In USA they have free speech - and that's why they have things like westboro Baptist church picketing funerals of gay soldiers and the like. Is that really what we want?

In the uk you have a negative right to free speech. What that means;

This means that the government is legally obliged to take no action against the speaker based on the speaker's views, but that no one is obliged to help any speakers publish their views, and no one is required to listen to, agree with, or acknowledge the speaker or the speaker's views.
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However there are exceptions to this, as quoted in this wiki list:

Even under the current Human Rights Act, there is a broad sweep of exceptions. They include threatening or abusive words or behaviour intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace,[4][5][6] sending another any article which is indecent or grossly offensive with an intent to cause distress or anxiety,[7][8][9] incitement,[10] incitement to racial hatred,[11] incitement to religious hatred, incitement to terrorism including encouragement of terrorism and dissemination of terrorist publications,[10][12][13] glorifying terrorism,[14][15] collection or possession of a document or record containing information likely to be of use to a terrorist,[16][17] treason,[18][19][20][21][22] sedition,[19] obscenity,[23] indecency including corruption of public morals and outraging public decency,[24] defamation,[25] prior restraint, restrictions on court reporting including names of victims and evidence and prejudicing or interfering with court proceedings,[26][27]prohibition of post-trial interviews with jurors,[27] time, manner, and place restrictions,[28] harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, classified material, copyright, patents, military conduct, and limitations on commercial speech such as advertising.
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It's often said it's a free country, or we have an entitlement to freedom of speech but neither are really true; we have an entitlement to say what we want as long as we aren't being bellends about it and crossing the line, which is why we don't have westboro here, although some people skate that line.

Opinions you can hold whatever you like of course, but when you start shouting about them then there are laws that govern that
 
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ThatFragranceGuy said:
Just on this point, we do not have free speech in the UK. In USA they have free speech - and that's why they have things like westboro Baptist church picketing funerals of gay soldiers and the like. Is that really what we want?

In the uk you have a negative right to free speech. What that means;



However thrrr are excepts to this, as quoted in this wiki list:



It's often said it's a free country, or we have an entitlement to freedom of speech but neither are really true; we have an entitlement to say what we want as long as we aren't being bellends about it and crossing the line, which is why we don't have westboro here, although some people skate that line.

Opinions you can hold whatever you like of course, but when you start shouting about them then there are laws that govern that
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Thank you for that, it is interesting and easy to understand(even for a thicko like me) the way you broke it down.
 
Druss_The_Legend said:
Thank you for that, it is interesting and easy to understand(even for a thicko like me) the way you broke it down.
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No probs - it's something a lot of people don't appreciate and just think you can say what you want because of the misconception that we have free speech, but seriously I can't see this content being a nice place if we did actually have it. Imagine what the "footy lads" would be like instead of just marching
 
Out of interest, anyone with a legal background shed light on how likely he is to face serious action for calling him a bike nonce?

I don’t agree with him but it seems a bit laughable to go to court over it. Though wonder if it’s based on continued harassment etc
 
"Uniting Behind Joey Barton against Jeremy Vine

In the ever-expanding arena of social media, where reputations are made and shattered in the blink of an eye, one man finds himself in the eye of the storm: Joey Barton, the former footballer whose journey has taken a dramatic turn. Caught in a whirlwind of defamation allegations stemming from allegedly derogatory tweets, Barton stands at the forefront of a battle for justice and fairness against none other than Jeremy Vine, a prominent figure in the media landscape.

Known for his skill and tenacity on the football pitch, Barton's latest challenge transcends the boundaries of sport. It's a clash of principles, a fight against baseless accusations that threaten to tarnish not just his reputation, but the very fabric of integrity in our digital age.

The recent debacle, sparked by Jeremy Vine's televised remarks insinuating Barton's alleged 'brain injury', serves as a stark reminder of the power wielded by media personalities and the responsibility that comes with it. Yet, amidst the storm of controversy, Barton stands firm, determined to seek justice and restore his honor.

Why Stand by Joey Barton?

Beyond the headlines and past controversies lies a fundamental truth: the importance of standing up against defamation and injustice. Regardless of personal opinions, Barton's quest for vindication resonates with the core values of fairness and accountability. Every individual, regardless of stature or past transgressions, deserves the right to defend their name and seek restitution for unwarranted attacks, especially when broadcast on a national platform.

In solidarity with Barton's cause, we've launched a GoFundMe campaign to provide crucial support in his legal battle against Jeremy Vine. Every contribution, no matter how small, serves as a beacon of hope in the pursuit of truth. Notably, any damages awarded will be graciously donated to Alder Hey Hospital in Liverpool, exemplifying Barton's commitment to giving back amidst adversity.

Additionally, spreading awareness about this campaign amplifies our collective voice and strengthens Barton's resolve in the face of adversity. Through social media, word of mouth, and grassroots efforts, we can galvanize widespread support for Barton's quest for justice.

Joey Barton's fight against defamation transcends the confines of individuality; it's a testament to the enduring values of integrity, fairness, and accountability. By rallying behind Barton, we send a resounding message that baseless attacks from media figures will not go unchallenged.

Let us stand shoulder to shoulder with Joey Barton in his journey towards vindication, ensuring that the voices of truth and decency prevail in the face of slander and defamation. Together, we can make a tangible difference in the pursuit of justice. Join us in championing the cause of truth today."

Organiser

Joey Barton
Organiser


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Bernieslavenschin said:
Out of interest, anyone with a legal background shed light on how likely he is to face serious action for calling him a bike nonce?

I don’t agree with him but it seems a bit laughable to go to court over it. Though wonder if it’s based on continued harassment etc
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Jeremy Vine was one of the people falsely named by trolls on Twitter before Schofield was outed, so I'm guessing he won't stand for any use of that word now.
 
Bernieslavenschin said:
Out of interest, anyone with a legal background shed light on how likely he is to face serious action for calling him a bike nonce?

I don’t agree with him but it seems a bit laughable to go to court over it. Though wonder if it’s based on continued harassment etc
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He wasn’t just calling him a name on the day. It was quite a nasty attack and there was all sorts said.
 
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