Jail for a kiss

BobUpnDown said:
WT absolute F..

Luis Rubiales: Prosecutors want jail for World Cup kiss

www.bbc.co.uk

Luis Rubiales: Prosecutors want jail for World Cup kiss

Spain's ex-football boss could go to prison because of a non-consensual kiss at the Women's World Cup.
www.bbc.co.uk

Surely a heavy fine & loss of his job is more appropriate..
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If it was just the kiss I’d agree, however the attempts at forcing her to say it was consensual and then releasing a false statement pretending to be from her saying it was takes it another level up.
 
Priv said:
If it was just the kiss I’d agree, however the attempts at forcing her to say it was consensual and then releasing a false statement pretending to be from her saying it was takes it another level up.
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hmm, yes, certainly using his position to try & coerce her adds, significantly, to the severity of the charge - I guess the 'click bait' headline did it's job
 
Have someone he doesn't like kiss him in and then tell everyone it was consensual.
A lot of punishments could be quite cheap and simple but there's a lot of professional industries that rely on the industry of punishment for their livelihood.. lawyers, judges, police, prison workers, media reporting on it etc etc.
Surely punishment should suit the crime to be effective?
 
Bristolboro said:
Surely punishment should suit the crime to be effective?
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So, all we have to do is make him live for 20 years as a woman in a "macho" society where even rape is not adequately prosecuted or punished and then put him on a platform in front of a crowd of 40k with the international media watching and have him snogged by Donald Trump.

That do?
 
He is a figure of authority and power, and used that for his own advantage. If a doorman or police officer kissed a person in the same manner on film and afterwards used their power and position to get the case thrown out, I'd expect them to be fired and reprimanded, and jail time would absolutely be possible.
 
Priv said:
If it was just the kiss I’d agree, however the attempts at forcing her to say it was consensual and then releasing a false statement pretending to be from her saying it was takes it another level up.
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Whilst this is all wrong, the fact that he went to these lengths is perhaps also a symptom of the pitchfork culture we now live in.

He did wrong, an apology should have sufficed. I can't imagine he'd have done all that stuff above if everyone had been willing to just leave it there?
 
GibbosEmpire said:
He is a figure of authority and power, and used that for his own advantage. If a doorman or police officer kissed a person in the same manner on film and afterwards used their power and position to get the case thrown out, I'd expect them to be fired and reprimanded, and jail time would absolutely be possible.
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The difference being that doormen (and lots of other people in lots of other professions) are probably guilty of having done stuff like this themselves in the past, but without having to face the music in the media and social media. Doesn't make it right, but doesn't make the reaction proportionate either.
 
atypical_boro said:
Whilst this is all wrong, the fact that he went to these lengths is perhaps also a symptom of the pitchfork culture we now live in.

He did wrong, an apology should have sufficed. I can't imagine he'd have done all that stuff above if everyone had been willing to just leave it there?
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Threatening her with legal action from the Fa (not personally) unless she made a statement exonerating him. Threatening the rest of the team with legal action if they stood by her. Then creating a false statement claiming it’s from her.

That goes abit further than an apology will suffice.

If he had apologised straight after and offered his resignation he wouldn’t be being charged. It was the digging his heels in and attempting to force her into a climb down that escalated this.
 
atypical_boro said:
I can't imagine he'd have done all that stuff above if everyone had been willing to just leave it there?
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He seems to have done anything and everything to avoid the consequences of his actions. The stench of entitlement is breath taking. He was never going to apologise, it would appear it never entered his head that he might be in the wrong it was those pesky "woke kids" spoiling it for everyone...

(probably, it's usually them)
 
Sometimes it's so much easier to say sorry in the first place than go to ever more extreme measures to avoid it
I doubt this would have been so serious - even though what he'd done was so wrong - if he'd said sorry to begin with
 
atypical_boro said:
Whilst this is all wrong, the fact that he went to these lengths is perhaps also a symptom of the pitchfork culture we now live in.

He did wrong, an apology should have sufficed. I can't imagine he'd have done all that stuff above if everyone had been willing to just leave it there?
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But that's the thing, she was willing to leave it there - in fact at first she more or less laughed it off. He was the one who wouldn't let it go, issuing a false statement in her name, trying to coerce her into validating his version of events, threatening other members of the team etc.
 
Liamo said:
But that's the thing, she was willing to leave it there - in fact at first she more or less laughed it off. He was the one who wouldn't let it go, issuing a false statement in her name, trying to coerce her into validating his version of events, threatening other members of the team etc.
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Yes fair enough, I suppose he has brought all that on himself.

But why didn’t he just move on from it himself? Was it purely out of pressure to resign?

The whole thing is a complete mess, from what I’ve read, and could have been dealt with so much more sensibly. But yes he does appear to have been largely to blame for that himself.
 
How many years did gary Neville get?


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Misleading headline isn't it? He's threatened with jail time for sexual assault and coercion. Not for a kiss.

Can't see him getting anywhere near the full sentence for the sexual assault element but sounds like (without being an expert in Spanish law) he could easily be hit with a more severe sentence for the coercion charge.
 
By any measure it has to be pretty serious for an offence to attract a custodial sentence - if he ends up behind bars for this, even with aggravating factors, I'm not sure what to say.

Crazy times were in.
 
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