No, I'm not thick actually. I understand that there is more nuance, that there is a difference between causation and correlation and that timing is important.
There are many reasons Foot, Kinnock and Corbyn lost and it can not be simplified into them being left.The Tories were at their strongest when Foot was in thanks to the Falklands war. Corbyn was starting from a massive deficit and fighting his own party as much as the opposition and then he lost to Brexit. There is a massive difference between rejecting the left and not rejecting the right and at that time, and over the last decade, Labour being left or right would have been irrelevant because the Tories were popular enough to win. Milliband and Brown were both centre right and didn't win either so why do you assume that it is the left that gets rejected?
You have fallen hook, mine and sinker for the right wing media propaganda that Labour can only be successful if they act like Tories. That is literally the right winning even when they aren't in power. They have fooled gullible idiots into thinking that things that will help people is a bad thing because rich people will get a smaller share and even apparent labour voters like yourself are stupid enough to believe them.
Thinking Starmer is someone that anyone would choose to vote for is just stupid. If he had been the leader at any of the previous elections he'd have lost them all. If he was Corbyn in a Starmer disguise he would be comfortably winning the next election. It is utter nonsense that only centre right Labour would be able to win the next election.
The facts are that the way the election system works and the variability in the situation at each election means that there aren't enough data points to determine whether the country would choose a left wing government.
"We will never make a difference unless we first get into power".
And what difference do you expect to make by only voting for someone that doesn't want to make a difference even when they have power? Starmer is the right wingers dream Labour leader. Someone who won't do any harm to the rich, a safe pair of hands for a few years until the Tories can distance themselves from the current shambles and muster up some credible politicians again.
