If Chuba went to Everton?

I wouldn't want to lose him but we'd be mad not to take it to be honest. Yes, he's had a great start to the season but how do we know it isn't just a purple patch and he will return to the form he has been in for the majority of his career? If we don't cash in now he might be back to being a £2m player by the end of the season.

Can't see it anyway. That sort of money could get you Gyokeres or Diaz and they are better long-term prospects than Akpom and I think would be able to handle the PL. Before this season I wasn't convinced Chuba was even a championship player never mind a PL player.
 
Everyone has a price and he’s contract isn’t long enough to ward off Jan interest from the Prem. at 27 he may not get another shot at the big time and that trumps any other argument. Fact is it’s all rumour atm and I doubt Everton will expect Chuba to be their saviour. If we offer him a longer contract with a pay rise and promotion benefits and also include a buy out figure that’s not to high maybe he stays.

I think Gibbo is going to spend this window, best chance for some time.
 
I think it would be madness for Chuba to move on at the moment. For the club and for him. He's finally playing for a manager that believes in him and is in the form of his life. Last thing he needs is to disrupt that to be a bench warmer at somewhere like Everton.
 
It would be crazy for Chuba to move now. He's a confidence player who hasn't had any confidence for years...
I remember posting before the summer suggesting we moved him on (hindsight), as he'd failed at almost every club he'd been at before us and he's 27 years old.

He's finally found his confidence and form, and can keep pushing on for the next few months - earn us promotion and bring his value up even more.

Going to Everton would be a short term pay day, but imagine if he went and didn't score in his first 3-4 games? The fans would instantly turn on him, his confidence would be shot again, and they could get relegated, leaving him in a worse position than he's in now with us.
 
It's a difficult balance between recognising a great profit and knowing that only very clubs have successfully managed to do this, like Brentford have by unearthing another striker after selling one for big money.
 
We paid 15m for Britt and I don’t remember anyone saying it was over the odds at the time - it obviously was in hindsight. Jan inflates prices and the Toffies are desperate but I still don’t think they will be looking at Chuba as the answer. I think Lampard goes before they spend more cash.
 
There’s no way we even get an offer above £10m for Akpom, let’s be real.

Everton would rather spend that sort of money on a foreign player than a player who has only had one decent half a season in his whole career.
 
Ash88 said:
It would be crazy for Chuba to move now. He's a confidence player who hasn't had any confidence for years...
I remember posting before the summer suggesting we moved him on (hindsight), as he'd failed at almost every club he'd been at before us and he's 27 years old.

He's finally found his confidence and form, and can keep pushing on for the next few months - earn us promotion and bring his value up even more.

Going to Everton would be a short term pay day, but imagine if he went and didn't score in his first 3-4 games? The fans would instantly turn on him, his confidence would be shot again, and they could get relegated, leaving him in a worse position than he's in now with us.
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It would be crazy for him not to move. He might never, probably won't, get promoted with us and he might never have as good a season as this one and his chance of playing PL football, and earning PL wages, will have passed. He's not 21 and still developing, he should be the finished article at his age so he can't spend more time waiting. He knows he's never going to be good enough to play for a top PL side so the peak he could reach is mid-table PL whether that is via promotion or someone buying him.

Your disaster scenario is that he would be relegated, so likely in the same division as us, but on higher wages and probably with a good chance of starting after relegation to "his level" for a bigger club than us with a better chance of promotion. The only way he would be in a worse position than staying with us is if we also get promoted. We've had 1 PL season in 15 years and Everton haven't been outside the top flight in 70 years so it is unlikely, but not impossible, that we'll be swapping places anyway.

Realistically, if there is an offer that we accept and he doesn't go then he is crazy.
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
There’s no way we even get an offer above £10m for Akpom, let’s be real.

Everton would rather spend that sort of money on a foreign player than a player who has only had one decent half a season in his whole career.
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The way Everton waste money, you never know. They just recalled Ellis Simms ffs.

Remember when we bought Gestede in January...
 
Everton really have squandered an absolute fortune haven't they. I read that they had spent half a billion pounds in the last 15 years and only have 1 FA Cup Final to show for it?
 
Nano said:
It would be crazy for him not to move. He might never, probably won't, get promoted with us and he might never have as good a season as this one and his chance of playing PL football, and earning PL wages, will have passed. He's not 21 and still developing, he should be the finished article at his age so he can't spend more time waiting. He knows he's never going to be good enough to play for a top PL side so the peak he could reach is mid-table PL whether that is via promotion or someone buying him.

Your disaster scenario is that he would be relegated, so likely in the same division as us, but on higher wages and probably with a good chance of starting after relegation to "his level" for a bigger club than us with a better chance of promotion. The only way he would be in a worse position than staying with us is if we also get promoted. We've had 1 PL season in 15 years and Everton haven't been outside the top flight in 70 years so it is unlikely, but not impossible, that we'll be swapping places anyway.

Realistically, if there is an offer that we accept and he doesn't go then he is crazy.
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For financial reasons I totally agree, it would be crazy not to move.

But for footballing reasons, he didn't perform at Brentford, Coventry, Hull, Brighton, or Forest... I think he got sent to some French League 2 team after that and didn't perform there either...
He was average at PAOK... Did okay but 14 goals in 50+ in the Greek league is nothing special...

He's finally found his form at 27, he's scoring goals, enjoying football...
After the disaster of a career he's had, and after failing to meet expectation time and time again over the last 7-8 years, to leave now and put himself in another 50 50 position where things could go wrong for him again, after only 6 months of good form, would be crazy.
 
RenzoRosso said:
“The disaster of a career”?
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He was once voted as the striker to fire us to world cup victory in 2022.

Obviously just a daft newspaper prediction at the time... but expectations of how his career was going to turn out vs. how his career has actually turned out... it has been a bit of a disaster for him.

I'm ecstatic that he's finally found his form with us, and he's been my favourite player on and off the pitch this season... but before this season, he'd failed at 7 different clubs, 8 if you include Arsenal.

To put himself in another position where he could potentially lose his confidence by being benched for long periods of time, or not scoring for a few games and getting into a relegation fight where he could be heavily relied on... would be the wrong move for the rest of his football career in my opinion.
 
From every perspective a massive transfer offer makes sense. Akpom would be crackers from a financial and footballing perspective not to take it and Boro would be mad not to take the money and run.

I mean it’s never going to happen I don’t think but if it did then we take the money, Akpom takes the deal and we all have a happy new year!
 
Ash88 said:
He was once voted as the striker to fire us to world cup victory in 2022.

Obviously just a daft newspaper prediction at the time... but expectations of how his career was going to turn out vs. how his career has actually turned out... it has been a bit of a disaster for him.

I'm ecstatic that he's finally found his form with us, and he's been my favourite player on and off the pitch this season... but before this season, he'd failed at 7 different clubs, 8 if you include Arsenal.

To put himself in another position where he could potentially lose his confidence by being benched for long periods of time, or not scoring for a few games and getting into a relegation fight where he could be heavily relied on... would be the wrong move for the rest of his football career in my opinion.
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This is me being pedantic but he was successful at PAOK. Scored the winning goal in the Greek cup final, and scored goals in the Champions League against some pretty decent clubs.
That being said you could reasonably say he hasn't fulfilled his potential so far. But he will do for us!
 
I don't think Everton really have the money talked about in this thread. Yes they have wasted a lot of money over the last few years but they seem to be under financial constraints now. Probably part of the reason why Lampard is still in his job. The new stadium costs don't really help with their situation.
 
Boro's and Chuba's part in all this speculation isn't the crazy part for me, I wouldn't blame either for cashing in (obviously I don't want it to happen). It's the fact that a number top flight clubs might be considering parting with big money for a 27 y.o. striker who's 'done it' for half a season in his career to date. The word that comes to mind is desperation. 😐
 
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