Id love it if Steffen...

indeedido said:
He is cut so so much slack by some posters.
Goalkeepers pride themselves on keeping clean sheets.
He has 7 from his 30 matches.
No fewer than 13 keepers have more clean sheets this season in our league, another 2 have the same 7 as him.
Lumley has 6 playing for Reading!
Are his fan club honestly saying that our defence is our problem and he saves us being worse. Utter nonsense.

I'm sure he won't be back next season and we will be better off for it.
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I don't think clean sheets are particularly useful as a comparison. We are an attacking team so are likely to keep less anyway. If Reading play like they did when I saw them the other night (Cardiff?) I'm not surprised they keep a few clean sheets.

I posted this the other day and is a lot more useful imo. Steffen is bang in the middle but was near the bottom earlier in the season.

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18MFC76 said:
For a Man City no2 supposedly earning 80 grand a week (with City hopefully contributing a good chunk of that) I expected a lot more I'll be honest. Most games he will gift the opposition a goalscoring opportunity with his poor distribution. He doesn't command his box when crosses come in as well as I thought he would.

I'm not saying he's a terrible keeper and he's obviously a big upgrade on Lumley and Bettinelli but a cardboard cutout would be an upgrade on those two jokers.
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Your last sentence puts your contribution in context.
 
indeedido said:
He is cut so so much slack by some posters.
Goalkeepers pride themselves on keeping clean sheets.
He has 7 from his 30 matches.
No fewer than 13 keepers have more clean sheets this season in our league, another 2 have the same 7 as him.
Lumley has 6 playing for Reading!
Are his fan club honestly saying that our defence is our problem and he saves us being worse. Utter nonsense.

I'm sure he won't be back next season and we will be better off for it.
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Well our defence isn't brilliant. Nothing wrong individually (although McNair gets dragged out of position a little) but the way we play doesn't really help with clean sheets (that's not a criticism, it's just a balancing act of attack vs defensc and out commitment to playing football and going forward.
I'm sure if we played in a conservative fashion we'd be picking up more clean sheets.
 
InglebyUTB said:
I understand that he's important to how we want to play, we can't just drop him for Roberts as he's a totally different goalkeeper.

That however does not make Steffen a good keeper.

The 2nd goal on Saturday, tame effort straight at him that he pushed out to the attacker right in front of him.

QPR last week his positioning was awful for their goal.

Sunderland he didn't even look up and passed the ball straight to Diallo to give him a clear 1v1. He was then slow to respond to the 50/50 that got Dael Fry sent off.

That's all in last month, and there's been plenty of other stuff he's got away with.
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Tbf with regards to QPR, did you expect Chair to shoot? I don't think anybody did.

You can't blame steffen for Fry being sent off, he was the one who pulled Stewart back for 20 yards.

In the last month he's
Pulled off some great saves against Sheffield United after adjusting to collecting the ball in the air against their tall players.
Made multiple good saves against West Brom.
Started quick counter attacks with his passing. Most of our attacks start with him
Kept a clean sheet against Watford, Milwall and Blackpool.

Plenty of good
 
People want clean sheets then complain when their team is to defensive. If you are going to attack, you're going to concede. Its the nature of the beast
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Even if he did, the people who complain about him every game wouldn’t be straight on here raving about him. They’d just keep quiet about slagging him off previously.

It’s something that’s already set in when it comes to Steffen, unfortunately.
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To be honest I have criticised Zaks performances, but i also praised him when it was justified (see my thread below on Oct 6th)

I don't think any true Boro fan wants Steffen to fail, I would love it if he kept a clean sheets every week & saved and caught every ball, i realise that never happens in the real world with any keeper.

However he does put the Sh**s up me, when he flaps at crosses, dilly dallies on the ball, palms shots back into dangerous areas, and often has poor anticipation/positioning for a goalkeeper. It's happening too many times for my liking, I'm saying what I see on the pitch, there's a rick in him most weeks., and so far we have got away with most of them.

Think he is a bit like Marmite with most fans, I don't love or hate Zak, I just want him to command his area and be more consistent, there's a reason why he scores 5 or 6 /10 most weeks off the Gazette & Northern Echo.
Morton94 said:
They loaned him out because he wanted to play at The World Cup.
They couldn't garuntee him games
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Morton94 said:
Tbf with regards to QPR, did you expect Chair to shoot? I don't think anybody did.

You can't blame steffen for Fry being sent off, he was the one who pulled Stewart back for 20 yards.

In the last month he's
Pulled off some great saves against Sheffield United after adjusting to collecting the ball in the air against their tall players.
Made multiple good saves against West Brom.
Started quick counter attacks with his passing. Most of our attacks start with him
Kept a clean sheet against Watford, Milwall and Blackpool.

Plenty of good
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He left the goal wide open with his positioning, there was always a chance the taker would spot this and go for goal.

If we had Joe Lumley in goal (who I didn’t rate at all) Fry doesn’t get sent off as he’d have came out and swept that into the stands. Fry was left exposed and by the time Steffen smelt the danger it was far too late, if Fry saw Steffen coming out to narrow the angle and clear that ball he doesn’t need to make a challenge.

Cardiff. I missed that one off. Another goal he cost us in the last month. Overhit pass to McNair who gets dispossessed, cross comes in and it’s in our net.

He costs us so many goals, the amount of protection he gets from sections of our fanbase because he’s not Joe Lumley is incredible.
 
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InglebyUTB said:
He left the goal wide open with his positioning, there was always a chance the taker would spot this and go for goal.

If we had Joe Lumley in goal (who I didn’t rate at all) Fry doesn’t get sent off as he’d have came out and swept that into the stands. Fry was left exposed and by the time Steffen smelt the danger it was far too late, if Fry saw Steffen coming out to narrow the angle and clear that ball he doesn’t need to make a challenge.

Cardiff. I missed that one off. Another goal he cost us in the last month. Overhit pass to McNair who gets dispossessed, cross comes in and it’s in our net.

He costs us so many goals, the amount of protection he gets from sections of our fanbase because he’s not Joe Lumley is incredible.
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Jeez is the keepers fault fry for sent off. Can I have one of whatever your drinking, its good stuff.
 
Morton94 said:
The way I see it, he's 27 which is still young for a keeper. He's been sitting on the bench basically playing Cup games for years, he's suddenly came to a club where let's face it he's not picking out De Bruyne and are adapting to playing out from the back.

I also disagree with you about him not commanding his box. I think he's getting better at it each week. He's actually small for a keeper. Its difficult
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Really he’s small for a keeper? He’s nearly 6-3. Not really that small.
 
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