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Quicksilvera said:
I feel people would rather he said they’re ****
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They have been underperforming, perhaps Carrick genuinely believes it's his issue. When asked directly, are they good enough. His response was 100%.

He could also be trying to support the players. Someone made the point, I think in this thread, that Ferguson never publicly blamed his players for their performance. We all recall the 5-0 thrashing by southampton where he blamed the grey shirts. Clealry an attempt, and a ridiculous one, to keep blame from his players. I have no doubt he had plenty to say in private.
 
Laughing said:
They have been underperforming, perhaps Carrick genuinely believes it's his issue. When asked directly, are they good enough. His response was 100%.

He could also be trying to support the players. Someone made the point, I think in this thread, that Ferguson never publicly blamed his players for their performance. We all recall the 5-0 thrashing by southampton where he blamed the grey shirts. Clealry an attempt, and a ridiculous one, to keep blame from his players. I have no doubt he had plenty to say in private.
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I agree - Carrick has absolutely nothing to gain from blaming his players - Windows closed, season is under way - Even as fans, we have nothing to gain from doing anything but getting behind them.
 
I do giggle when the supercilious look down with disdain at people that have given honest frank opinion on Boro and their performances so far. They tend to spin comments to suit a narrative that isn’t reality in order to seem a cut above, bless.

Comments like suggesting people want a head coach to say his players are ****. I mean really, that is such arrogant nonsense and smug generalisation if any one person even did suggest it. They probably assume people want to or enjoy laying blame at the door of people for the sake of it, again haughty nonsense.

Supporters truthfully saying what they see and expressing how they feel seems to be wanted to be shut down in certain quarters. They seem to lack the ability to understand that they give praise where its due too as well as constructive criticism where merited, human beings have feelings, some would like to repress them in some it would seem. I wonder why that is and their reason why they do? They wouldn’t want issues or problems to go unnoticed and not acted on by those in roles within the club yet arrogantly expect supporters to hush, clap like seals and lap up the entertainment no matter how good or bad it is. They don’t behave that way in political threads, or threads on real world issues, I wonder why?

Now where did I put my crimson specs, I hope I get to find them in time for when the corner is eventually turned as it hopefully will be, after all, we all do really want the same thing, a successful and winning Boro, gathering points to spread joy among our hearts.
 
coluka said:
I do giggle when the supercilious look down with disdain at people that have given honest frank opinion on Boro and their performances so far. They tend to spin comments to suit a narrative that isn’t reality in order to seem a cut above, bless.

Comments like suggesting people want a head coach to say his players are ****. I mean really, that is such arrogant nonsense and smug generalisation if any one person even did suggest it. They probably assume people want to or enjoy laying blame at the door of people for the sake of it, again haughty nonsense.

Supporters truthfully saying what they see and expressing how they feel seems to be wanted to be shut down in certain quarters. They seem to lack the ability to understand that they give praise where its due too as well as constructive criticism where merited, human beings have feelings, some would like to repress them in some it would seem. I wonder why that is and their reason why they do? They wouldn’t want issues or problems to go unnoticed and not acted on by those in roles within the club yet arrogantly expect supporters to hush, clap like seals and lap up the entertainment no matter how good or bad it is. They don’t behave that way in political threads, or threads on real world issues, I wonder why?

Now where did I put my crimson specs, I hope I get to find them in time for when the corner is eventually turned as it hopefully will be, after all, we all do really want the same thing, a successful and winning Boro, gathering points to spread joy among our hearts.
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I think you have to be wary of assuming the criticism is aimed at all posters who post honest, and more importantly, reasonable criticisms of the team.

It would be difficult not to be critical of the current performances. However saying Engel had a shocking game on Tuesday is very different to saying he is gash. The former is an honest opinion, the second is something you hear in the schoolyard.

I don't think anyone wants criticism to be shut down, but let's do it in an honest fasion on a board that is publicly available.

I remember some of the personal criticism aimed at Southgate during his managerial spell. Given his kids may well have been reading this board, it was shocking.
 
Ash88 said:
I agree - Carrick has absolutely nothing to gain from blaming his players - Windows closed, season is under way - Even as fans, we have nothing to gain from doing anything but getting behind them.
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I don't disagree, but there is a difference between slating players publicly and acknowledging that performances have been poor.
Trying to make out that there are so many positives pulls the wool over the eyes of very few and is itself counter productive.
I am supportive of Carrick and think he deserves time and support, but I must admit some of his recent comments have started to wind me up a bit.

Let's get 3 points tomorrow and start things moving in the right direction.
 
I do think we will be more effective if we can score first. Dont think we have all season. Carrrick seems to suggest his teams are about exploiting space so I would hope we are better if we can get a lead.
 
An honest opinion would go a long way. Doesn’t have to throw anyone under the bus, but to say he’s seen positives, we all know that’s a lie.

Worst team since Strachan maybe worse than Strachan
 
coluka said:
I do giggle when the supercilious look down with disdain at people that have given honest frank opinion on Boro and their performances so far. They tend to spin comments to suit a narrative that isn’t reality in order to seem a cut above, bless.

Comments like suggesting people want a head coach to say his players are ****. I mean really, that is such arrogant nonsense and smug generalisation if any one person even did suggest it. They probably assume people want to or enjoy laying blame at the door of people for the sake of it, again haughty nonsense.

Supporters truthfully saying what they see and expressing how they feel seems to be wanted to be shut down in certain quarters. They seem to lack the ability to understand that they give praise where its due too as well as constructive criticism where merited, human beings have feelings, some would like to repress them in some it would seem. I wonder why that is and their reason why they do? They wouldn’t want issues or problems to go unnoticed and not acted on by those in roles within the club yet arrogantly expect supporters to hush, clap like seals and lap up the entertainment no matter how good or bad it is. They don’t behave that way in political threads, or threads on real world issues, I wonder why?

Now where did I put my crimson specs, I hope I get to find them in time for when the corner is eventually turned as it hopefully will be, after all, we all do really want the same thing, a successful and winning Boro, gathering points to spread joy among our hearts.
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Spot on.
 
coluka said:
I do giggle when the supercilious look down with disdain at people that have given honest frank opinion on Boro and their performances so far. They tend to spin comments to suit a narrative that isn’t reality in order to seem a cut above, bless.

Comments like suggesting people want a head coach to say his players are ****. I mean really, that is such arrogant nonsense and smug generalisation if any one person even did suggest it. They probably assume people want to or enjoy laying blame at the door of people for the sake of it, again haughty nonsense.

Supporters truthfully saying what they see and expressing how they feel seems to be wanted to be shut down in certain quarters. They seem to lack the ability to understand that they give praise where its due too as well as constructive criticism where merited, human beings have feelings, some would like to repress them in some it would seem. I wonder why that is and their reason why they do? They wouldn’t want issues or problems to go unnoticed and not acted on by those in roles within the club yet arrogantly expect supporters to hush, clap like seals and lap up the entertainment no matter how good or bad it is. They don’t behave that way in political threads, or threads on real world issues, I wonder why?

Now where did I put my crimson specs, I hope I get to find them in time for when the corner is eventually turned as it hopefully will be, after all, we all do really want the same thing, a successful and winning Boro, gathering points to spread joy among our hearts.
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Do you remember how you and Ray used to go about Brad Jones on the old board? It was way beyond constructive criticism.

Things aren't good right now but nearly every thread is doom-mongering.
 
Brick_Tamland said:
Do you remember how you and Ray used to go about Brad Jones on the old board? It was way beyond constructive criticism.

Things aren't good right now but nearly every thread is doom-mongering.
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Is that really surprising when you consider the position the club is in?
 
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