I guess we’ll see how good (or not) Iran really are.

Ramsey has been finished by injury. They are carrying him and it’s hindering the team, he has no mobility, to be fair Bale isn’t looking particularly mobile either but at least he still carries a threat.

The two together though are crippling this team.

Walesonline player ratings in and it seems they agree.
Ramsey 2
Bale 3
 
20 seems like a lot! and 17 tbf.. what caused that then? Ott yellow cards?
In those world cups probably the refs were under instruction to clamp down on anything physical. Noticeable they are allowing a lot of physical contact which is only good.
 
aye i work with one absolute plank. scots are worse thought. absolutely irrelevant, they need to get involved with hating England to exist
At Euro 2012 I came across a group of Scots who’d specifically gone to get behind everyone England were playing. They had ghetto blasters, kilts, the lot, no idea how pathetic they looked.

Obviously it’s not all Scots, not even a large proportion, but the fact that those type exist is mind-boggling. Imagine living your life with that kind of bitterness.
 
I'd have preferred that 0-0, the match against Wales is going to be all or nothing for them now and it won't be a dead rubber for us even if we win tonight.
If we win tonight it’s going to take at least a seven goal swing for us to not finish top. Can’t see the Wales game being anything but a dead rubber, if we win tonight of course.
EDit-sorry this has already been well covered!
 
That was just after the Brexit referendum. And I was exactly the same. f*** England vibes strong that day...
You honestly think the Welsh players were cheering because of brexit ???

Really

Anyway back to the coverage what was with klinsman fawning all over the Welsh has he got a holiday chalet in Rhyl or something.
 
It really shocked me that vid as these aren’t fans going nuts when England got knocked out but professional football players all of whom played in England at the time and most were born in England.

Our departure as well had no bearing at all on wales own position either so it was just pure spite against a fellow pro and many of their own teammates.

It was just very odd.
 
At Euro 2012 I came across a group of Scots who’d specifically gone to get behind everyone England were playing. They had ghetto blasters, kilts, the lot, no idea how pathetic they looked.

Obviously it’s not all Scots, not even a large proportion, but the fact that those type exist is mind-boggling. Imagine living your life with that kind of bitterness.
I can understand the kilts but what's the ghetto blasters got to do with out? :ROFLMAO:
 
Our expectations and hopes are going a lot further than the group stages - lets face it, our group is one of the easier ones. There are a number of poor teams in the WC. Wales are a bit of an aging team (well their main stars - Bale and Ramsey). Generally happens with the smaller populated countries - look at Croatia - they've had a great run for about 10 years with Modric, etc, but age catches up with us all eventually! Wales are just another poor team. Would have liked them to have done better, considering its their first WC in 58 years, but looks like they are going out without a whimper (unless they leave on a high by beating England??).
 
It really shocked me that vid as these aren’t fans going nuts when England got knocked out but professional football players all of whom played in England at the time and most were born in England.

Our departure as well had no bearing at all on wales own position either so it was just pure spite against a fellow pro and many of their own teammates.

It was just very odd.
I'm not sure you realise how much the English (sweeping generalisation I accept) are hated, not just in Wales and Scotland, but many countries in Europe - the perceived arrogance and superior attitude, Brexit rhetoric, groups of gob5hite lads on pi55 up holidays laughing at the locals, old fart expats refusing to integrate, "johnny foreigner" humour etc etc - this transposes itself to the country's sports teams unfortunately
 
I'm not sure you realise how much the English (sweeping generalisation I accept) are hated, not just in Wales and Scotland, but many countries in Europe - the perceived arrogance and superior attitude, Brexit rhetoric, groups of gob5hite lads on pi55 up holidays laughing at the locals, old fart expats refusing to integrate, "johnny foreigner" humour etc etc - this transposes itself to the country's sports teams unfortunately
No I get that completely by fans

but these were players most of which were English themselves playing and living in England.
 
I'm not sure you realise how much the English (sweeping generalisation I accept) are hated, not just in Wales and Scotland, but many countries in Europe - the perceived arrogance and superior attitude, Brexit rhetoric, groups of gob5hite lads on pi55 up holidays laughing at the locals, old fart expats refusing to integrate, "johnny foreigner" humour etc etc - this transposes itself to the country's sports teams unfortunately
Whilst you’re right there’s no way Scotland/Wales are exempt from that kind of behaviour.

Let’s not forget Wales wanted Brexit too.
 
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