How is Burgzorg on the pitch before McGree, Jones or Forss.

1AitorKaranka said:
Yeah I think it's more that he's not as terrible as people are making out
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He keeps getting 20 minutes against teams sat back defending a lead.

Conway, Mcgree, forss and Jones all looked rubbish off the bench as well because of the nature of the game. Burgzorg was also not good but did offer something different. We got behind a couple of times on the left from his play, but his passing was poor.
 
The problems run deep. I’ve said this time and again but for me the 0-5 at home to Stoke is a big f*ck off massive red flag. It was an embarrassment, a capitulation. It cannot be brushed under the carpet. It showed a weak underbelly and exposed a complete lack of ruthlessness. We are a very, very fragile football team.

Honestly that Stoke game was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen from a Boro team in 33 years of watching us. It was utter dogsh*t. Borderline offensive. To me we’re closer to that team, a team buckles and ends up losing 5-0 at home, than we are one that challenges for automatic promotion. We are miles and miles and miles off it.
 
sherlock said:
I’m genuinely not sure that Burgzorg has a single positive attribute.
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The only thing I've seen from him is that his presence brings a couple of defenders out from the box to him, but it's not that much of an attribute as he'll just attempt a shot at an angle which will hit a defender, or hangs on for a couple of seconds too long and can't make a good pass.
 
We are leaking goals with this 'double pivot' that Carrick seems wedded to, and we're not scoring nearly enough goals with it
 
Boro4life said:
Mcgree would normally start but he was in intense game against Japan for Australia in high humidity on think Tuesday. Where he played full game.
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Apart from the Watford game when he was rested as well.

Other players come back from playing all over the world and are fine to play, Carrick has an issue with Mcgree for some reason.
 
Boro4life said:
Mcgree would normally start but he was in intense game against Japan for Australia in high humidity on think Tuesday. Where he played full game.
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So McGree didn’t start because he played football on Tuesday and was on a plane (probably slept there and back).
If he wasn’t fit he shouldn’t have been on the bench.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
The problems run deep. I’ve said this time and again but for me the 0-5 at home to Stoke is a big f*ck off massive red flag. It was an embarrassment, a capitulation. It cannot be brushed under the carpet. It showed a weak underbelly and exposed a complete lack of ruthlessness. We are a very, very fragile football team.

Honestly that Stoke game was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen from a Boro team in 33 years of watching us. It was utter dogsh*t. Borderline offensive. To me we’re closer to that team, a team buckles and ends up losing 5-0 at home, than we are one that challenges for automatic promotion. We are miles and miles and miles off it.
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100% agree and to treat the only cup competition we’ve ever won with such contempt was unforgivable. Not to mention the fans who paid good money to watch it.
 
Frazza65 said:
100% agree and to treat the only cup competition we’ve ever won with such contempt was unforgivable. Not to mention the fans who paid good money to watch it.
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The League Cup run last year cost us any chance of top six. Injury to Lath/focus on the semi's when we had Rotherham and Sunderland at home with 4 points dropped.

We're not going to win the thing, and promotion is more important to the club than reaching the latter stages but falling short, so why give it any focus.

When we're back in the Prem and have ourselves financially set (and also have better players) then by all means lets go for a cup run.
 
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