Herd Immunity

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onenilawayfromhome

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The Government's initial thinking about Covid 19 was to allow exposure and develop a herd immunity.

An awful lot of cabinet members seem to have 'caught' the virus.

Social distancing advice seems to have been flouted. Shaking hands, mass involvement in video calls. You could read into their actions that they have deliberately exposed themselves to risk.

Boris got it bad, but was treated in a way that normal members of the population wouldn't have been.

Got a PM and a next in line to the throne all exposed to the virus.

What a coincidence!

If we want football in the next 6 months then the squads need to be exposed. Otherwise we will need a Covid (+) league and a Covid (-) league!

Its a football forum after all!
 
QUOTE="nowthen, post: 36975, member: 49"]Would a normal Joe Blogg be admitted into icu just incase?[/QUOTE]
Are you privy to Boris’ medical notes?
 
Every news outlet reported that he was taken into icu as a precautionary measure. Many won’t even make it as far as hospital. To say we are all treated equal is naive at best.
 
For herd immunity to work a minimum of two thirds population have to have been infected, seeing as we’ve no actual way of finding this out its no surprise the idea was binned - seems this government are making it up as they go along


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nowthen said:
Every news outlet reported that he was taken into icu as a precautionary measure. Many won’t even make it as far as hospital. To say we are all treated equal is naive at best.
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So are you saying that a nurse will look at one patient and say ‘he’s from South Bank and doesn’t deserve the same attention as that lad from SW1.’

Boris wouldn’t have received get well wishes from the leaders of all the top countries if he was only in for a precaution. Sometimes you have to read between the lines.
 
My wife is a nurse, she has covid 19 patients on her ward, all the people on that ward are on oxygen support, they aren’t ventilated. Only the most serious cases i.e. those who have to be sedated and intubated are sent to ICU, so I would say yes BJ has definitely had care your everyday joe public would not get, in that he’s probably had close attention in an ICU whilst not being as seriously ill as everyone else that’s admitted into an ICU


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I hope she’s okay. I only know people who have been in hospital. Outside of that, I know of celebs/footballers who have paid and then the cabinet.
 
Funky_Chicken said:
My wife is a nurse, she has covid 19 patients on her ward, all the people on that ward are on oxygen support, they aren’t ventilated. Only the most serious cases i.e. those who have to be sedated and intubated are sent to ICU, so I would say yes BJ has definitely had care your everyday joe public would not get, in that he’s probably had close attention in an ICU whilst not being as seriously ill as everyone else that’s admitted into an ICU
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I’d say that would be obvious to most people.
 
"What I can say is that it is highly likely he will have been moved to the ICU earlier than most patients. This will partly be for security reasons as the ICU is an easier place to limit access and make secure compared to most hospital wards."

" Boris is now in a similar position as countless other patients we have in our hospital: stuck in an isolation room, breathless and frightened. I suspect that unlike our patients, the Prime Minister will not be left by himself. He may even be allowed the odd visitor, which will make his plight more bearable than most of our patients at the moment."

Intensive care doctor Richard Cree

read his blog
 
I’ve noticed the new advert from the govt now says that corona virus is a life threatening condition that can affect all ages.

it seems the ludicrous notion that only those over 70 would have an issue has now been dropped.

I think this has largely led to the blasé attitude of the younger generation that thankfully is now changing.
 
Spanish flu was caught by about 30% of the UK population it did not have to be 60% for herd immunity.

If there is 1 death for every 500 people who have had the Coronavirus that is about 5m people who have had it in some form or about 7% of the UK population so far. I used 1 to 500 because the fatality rate for Spanish Flu was about that ratio. Of course Corona may be quite different, but so far Spanish Flu is the closest virus to what we are experiencing now.
 
onenilawayfromhome said:
The Government's initial thinking about Covid 19 was to allow exposure and develop a herd immunity.

An awful lot of cabinet members seem to have 'caught' the virus.

Social distancing advice seems to have been flouted. Shaking hands, mass involvement in video calls. You could read into their actions that they have deliberately exposed themselves to risk.

Boris got it bad, but was treated in a way that normal members of the population wouldn't have been.

Got a PM and a next in line to the throne all exposed to the virus.

What a coincidence!

If we want football in the next 6 months then the squads need to be exposed. Otherwise we will need a Covid (+) league and a Covid (-) league!

Its a football forum after all!
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I think you are overestimating Johnson and the rest of the cabinet if you think they have been trying to demonstrate how the herd immunity theory can work, personally I think they are a total shambles.
 
It sounds like a lot would need to die to get enough infected for herd immunity to work.
Thats too expensive. It doesn't matter if you live in south bank or westminster. I don't want you to get this.
 
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