Have the club let Carrick down?

Nero said:
There was clearly a strategy after failing to get promoted last season, and having to let the heart of that team leave. Akpom, Archer, Ramsey and Giles were all massively better than what has replaced them. The club tried to get similar players for a fraction of the cost, but it was a gamble that hasn’t worked.
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Everyone says that the "model" is to buy young players with potential, not older players with more experience and hefty price tags. I'm not sure I know what a "model" is but it's clear that the club can't afford to pay both big transfer fees and big wages.

So it's not a surprise that the replacements cost less than the players that are sold. Of course it's a gamble, but the gamble is not going to break the club.

And it's possible that the club will unearth a few good players who contribute to a promotion push. If Boro are promoted, they stay, if not then some are sold to fund buying some more.

But as always on here, there's outrage about season ticket prices, shirt prices, etc, while expecting the club to splash the cash on transfers and wages.

The equation just doesn't balance as far as the club is concerned. As far many on here are concerned the equation doesn't need to balance. Just spend more on transfers, more on wages, disregard FFP and let Steve Gibson plough in even more money.

I don't know whether people just don't understand this, or they think MFC shouldn't have financial constraints.

I do know that if the team can beat Chelsea, Leicester, Southampton, Sunderland et al it can't be that bad. Injuries, mistakes, tactical errors happen, they shouldn't be blamed on the club, and don't mean the club is being run badly.
 
The question should be is Carrick backing up the club with its buying & selling of players with saying we dont need a striker we can get goals from other players that has worked out well.
 
If Carrick felt let down and that both he and the club where going in a different direction, then he would surely of left?

There seems to be a harmony between the club and the management team, Rogers was something that worked for the club and the player wanted to go, same for Crooks, transfers the ones we wanted we couldn't get so we decided not to go for an unwanted mercenary probably knowing it wasn't going to make much of an impact on this season endeavors due to injuries etc and on injuries just wow never known a season like it.

Accumulation of multiple factors this season, decisions, injuries, tactics etc no one area IMO but one thing I am sure of is that Carrick and the management team have a great working relationship with the club!
 
Posted on another thread, but I think it fits here too....

No pace, no strikers, no bite/power/aggression in midfield, no leaders/fighters anywhere on the pitch. - big chunk of that is on the club

We have a huge mental frailty in the squad when there's the slightest pressure to deliver.

Written off as under dogs we do alright, have to motivate ourselves, raise our game and win against average sides we fail nine times out of ten.

We have a squad of bottling fannies. - majority of that is on the man management, coaching team etc who set them up and send them out IMO.
 
Corco65 said:
Why does everyone seem to distance MC from recruitment, I would say he a big part of the recruitment process. Also he has been saying for some time that we have enough forward options and he wasn't concerned.
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Because we have a full time head of recruitment in Scott.
 
Soutra said:
Everyone says that the "model" is to buy young players with potential, not older players with more experience and hefty price tags. I'm not sure I know what a "model" is but it's clear that the club can't afford to pay both big transfer fees and big wages.

So it's not a surprise that the replacements cost less than the players that are sold. Of course it's a gamble, but the gamble is not going to break the club.

And it's possible that the club will unearth a few good players who contribute to a promotion push. If Boro are promoted, they stay, if not then some are sold to fund buying some more.

But as always on here, there's outrage about season ticket prices, shirt prices, etc, while expecting the club to splash the cash on transfers and wages.

The equation just doesn't balance as far as the club is concerned. As far many on here are concerned the equation doesn't need to balance. Just spend more on transfers, more on wages, disregard FFP and let Steve Gibson plough in even more money.

I don't know whether people just don't understand this, or they think MFC shouldn't have financial constraints.

I do know that if the team can beat Chelsea, Leicester, Southampton, Sunderland et al it can't be that bad. Injuries, mistakes, tactical errors happen, they shouldn't be blamed on the club, and don't mean the club is being run badly.
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Hull City & Ipswich are investing why can't Boro? It feels we hamstrung by Gibson & his long-term mistakes.
 
Last summer, the then Plymouth Argyle manager went on record to say that Michael Carrick told him Plymouth could have Coburn on loan if Boro got another striker in. That's another striker in addition to Lath. We didn't get that striker in. Coburn has been injured or ineffective ever since and even in the January window when both Coburn and Lath were injured we still didn't bring in another striker.

This is on the club massively. There's another thread about Boro being a sh1t show. It is.
 
Laughing said:
No Carrick hasn't been let down. The inconsistencies are down to Carrick. He is not, always, getting the best out of the squad.
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I think both can be true.
Carrick has been let down in terms of recruitment.
Carrick has made mistakes in terms of selection/tactics.
However, I find his mistakes a bit more understandable (and forgivable) given he’s what, 15 months into his first proper managerial job? He was also tasked with replacing real talent with unknown/untested players so start of the season he had a difficult task given he didn’t really know how half his first team squad could perform at this level. Injuries haven’t helped. Yes, he’s made mistakes and some of them are baffling (eg playing Hackney out of position, Dieng benched) but he’s still learning.
 
Anim8 said:
Our recruitment strategy suggests that we’re broke. We’ve been selling anyone of any value, and I’m not sure we’ve hit bottom yet. Talking about this or that seems pretty pointless until we know what our level is. We might well be a League 1 club?
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Of course we are broke but so are the majority of league clubs but you have to use your resources to best effect, I don't think this has been the case for most of this season. The problem is not scoring goals (we are only a few down on last season) the problem is stopping the opposition scoring, we have hardly any clean sheets and teams regularly have men free in and around the box, its the system that is not working with the current playing staff and I am afraid that is down to thee manager.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
I believe so.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he left in the summer. We’ve sold Tav, Spence, Akpom and Rogers for approx £40 million over last couple of years, and we brought in an untested gamble in Lath and some young ‘prospects’ and untested-at-this-level players from inferior leagues. We had to change plans and cancel Coburn's loan right at the end of the window, (which would have probably been the best move for his development), because we only had one striker on the books! (Not counting Forss, cos they clearly don’t see him as a striker, despite giving him minutes up top yesterday).
Despite Coburn and Lath being crocked for large chunks of the season, and us having tried various attacking midfielders up top over past few months, we went through the January transfer window without addressing the striker issue. Yes, we’ve had appalling injuries that have hugely impacted our season. Yes we’ve had a couple of successes in the market in RDVB and Dieng (why the **** isn’t he playing?!?!) Yes Carrick’s selection hasn’t been great sometimes - Hackney out of position, Dieng on the bench when supposedly fit, etc
Ultimately though, when all is said and done, we’ve got no focal point of the team. Not enough reliable/tried and tested/good enough strikers. We frequently are chasing games and ‘batter’ teams in the second half, and by that I only mean dominating possession in and around the box, but without creating much in the way of shots on goal or proper chances. We’ve asked Carrick to get us promoted and then we’ve lost 45+ goals from the team in Archer, Akpom and Ramsey and we’ve replaced them with youngsters, projects and untested players. We’ve tied one hand behind his back and blindfolded him. This seasons failings lie squarely on our lack of investment and recruitment where it matters, and if I was Carrick I’d be mightily cheesed off. Think this will end up proving to have been a missed opportunity to achieve something with a very good up and coming manager. Ho hum.

*Probably win the next three games and then we’ll all be talking about play offs again, like the silly mugs we are. Nothing but disappointment awaits us this season. Potentially a summer that is all about the loss of Hackney, RVDB, McGree and Carrick. I know I’m being pessimistic and I’m normally a very optimistic Boro fan, but I’m really feeling massive ‘what could have been’ vibes at the minute, and the blame shouldn’t lie with Carrick.
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That is the best assessment I`ve read on this board in a matter of months [Not that my personal opinions matter]. (y)
I`ve just posted on another thread, we cant use tools in the toolbox which no longer do what they are made for. We can mackle-together a short term solution and patch-up where we know major repair s and reinvestment are required.
Eventually, we have to admit we need a new tool set, a quality tool-set.
They say a bad workman blames his tools, but even the best workman cant do a quality job without the best professional tools.
 
Surely the club didn't force him to drop Dieng or play McGree as a central striker / second number 10 or whatever the fůck was meant to be going on for the first 55 minutes yesterday?

The club hasn't forced him to immediately change back to 4-2-3-1 after a good result playing with a back 5?

The club don't enforce a strict, under no circumstances are you to change formation or personnel in the first hour, when we are getting overrun / played off the pitch at home, by teams that cost as much as his watch collection to put together?

Yes the club have taken a direction with the squad that has weakened his hand, no question.

But the recent home form / losses are 80%-90% on Carrick's set-up, formation and tactics.

We are too slow, too passive, too willing to play a suicidal ball out from the back to 'beat the press' when there's no threat carried forward anyway. Of the two centre mids, seemingly one is too far forward and one is too deep, we haven't played with a striker for huge chunks of this bad run, our passing is sloppy, there is zero urgency or accountability with each other on the pitch, nobody talks, nobody boIIocks anyone, when we concede we simply turn round and walk back shoulders slumped.

We are awful, in an awful slump at home, as a manger he does nothing, he looks lost and almost shell shocked at times.

Did he really think the double fullback substitution was going to do anything?

I still fully support him, but this season is an utter write off bordering on embarrassment now.

We need four or five hardened first team campaigners bringing in who Carrick trusts to deliver what he needs on the pitch.

I also think he needs some help in the dug out, I'm 100% sure Woody was a club appointment and if Gibbo wants him in there then fine, but I can't help but feel a seasoned head coach/assistant manager type who has been round the block a few times would be an asset for MC while he's still learning.

He's repeatedly making the same mistakes and really struggles to make an impact either with the formation, tactically or personnel (understandable currently maybe) during the match when things are going against us.

Lots of areas to improve, I renewed last week, we go again next season.

Lets hope he uses the next few months to try things and get a good idea on what players and tactics are going to work for us next season.

I just pray the club actually gets most of the squad we want assembled by July, so August is only utilised for additions if the odd 'too good to miss' player comes up.

Onwards, and hopefully upwards.

UTB
 
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