Handball? Or Not?

Referee needs demoting for that unless the assistant has gave it. There's no way he can see from where he's positioned and just listened to the players shout.
 
Yes. The ball is still classed as in his hands until he kicks it. Bizarre I know but that's the rule. He kicks it outside of the box so it's classed as handball.
 
Pauliej said:
Yes. The ball is still classed as in his hands until he kicks it. Bizarre I know but that's the rule. He kicks it outside of the box so it's classed as handball.
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Never heard that before. Is that definitely in the laws?
 
B_G said:
Never heard that before. Is that definitely in the laws?
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I suppose there's a pedantic way of interpreting it that way if you look at the IFAB laws.

"The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area."

"A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

  • the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms, except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
  • holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
  • bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air "

I can't imagine it's meant to be interpreted as handball if they're kicking an airborne ball outside their box, but I'm sure that they'd still class the keeper as in control of the ball if they'd been challenged so 🤷‍♂️
 
That stinks of it happening earlier in the game and someone has pointed it out to the ref so now he's looking for it at every opportunity, and ends up awarding it incorrectly.
 
TeaCider said:
I suppose there's a pedantic way of interpreting it that way if you look at the IFAB laws.

"The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area."

"A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

  • the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms, except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
  • holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
  • bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air "

I can't imagine it's meant to be interpreted as handball if they're kicking an airborne ball outside their box, but I'm sure that they'd still class the keeper as in control of the ball if they'd been challenged so 🤷‍♂️
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My interpretation of that law is to prevent keepers being challenged mid kick not for instances like this. I've never seen it used for that and keepers do it all the time.
 
Pauliej said:
If you can explain it differently Paul I'm all ears. I played in goal for years and that is what I was always told. 🤔
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Were you told that on a regular basis or just once by someone who may have been wrong? Keepers nearly always put one foot out of the box when they kick the ball these days.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Were you told that on a regular basis or just once by someone who may have been wrong? Keepers nearly always put one foot out of the box when they kick the ball these days.
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Was told a few times mate but it was years ago. The rules as stated earlier in the post seem to back it up though. I know it's bizarre but also makes sense if you look at it from a keepers point of view. Keepers can't have it both ways.
 
I think that simply relates to the opposition not being able to interrupt the kick and he will be classed as in control of the ball in that sense.

As it states at the top, a goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handball as any other player. Where else does somebody get penalised for not touching it with the hand/ arm?

I might well be wrong but I’m just not having it 😆
 
Pauliej said:
Was told a few times mate but it was years ago. The rules as stated earlier in the post seem to back it up though. I know it's bizarre but also makes sense if you look at it from a keepers point of view. Keepers can't have it both ways.
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To be fair, I mistook you for that poster who was a qualified referee, who would obviously know more than me, I was just trying to find an explanation for why that might be the case, as I've never heard it brought up before.

I'm not really sure I agree that it's a law, I think that referee has just mistaken where the keeper's hand was.
 
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