Andy_W
Well-known member
Might be for you (and me also), but my bet is >95% don't know how to do a basic filter change. I've known timing belts/ cambelts write off cars with 50k miles on them, and I've had electronics in about 3 ICE cars disable them completely (all outside warranty, none of them were cheaper than £1,000 to fix).Changing the oil and filter is a very easy thing to do and doesn't cost much. Things like spark plugs and cam belts are also run of the mill jobs for nearly every mechanic out there. My vehicle has a cam belt kit, aux belts and water pump change every 10 years or 100,000 miles. It costs me £350 at a specialist. Some will pay a lot more - if you just rock up at the main dealer. But of course you don't do that, unless you're an EV owner where you'll be probably locked into the main dealer estate.
Although an EV doesn't have as many moving parts, they are replaced by technology and computers. How does £1000 for a software update sound compared to £100 for an oil and filter change? Or £10,000 for a new battery perhaps. When things go wrong with these EVs, they will likely be expensive.
Also, a word of warning about warranties. Manufacturers will often not play ball if the vehicle is still running reasonably well. For instance, say a battery isn't performing as it should, the manufacturer won't replace it. They'll likely do something with the software that won't really fix the problem. That will be then a long term problem that doesn't get fixed. There's all sorts of examples out there where warranties aren't what they seem. Don't go banking on one to get all problems sorted.
I would go to the dealer, as my car has an 8 year/ 100k miles warranty, and it won't cost me a penny. My servicing is only £200 a year too. See what the warranty and servicing cost is on a decent ICE Suv, after 4 years/ 50k miles. My bet is no warranty left and some services costing near £750, well it's not a bet, as I've had it on about 10 cars. No more discs and pads for me either, add that to the list, I can do those myself also, but for 99% of people that's a garage job every 3-5 years.
I've never had to pay for a software update, never had to go into the garage for one either, just get a notification every few months that one happened when I was asleep. Seemingly Tesla (who have been doing this a while) have been giving them out for free, and improving their cars for nearly a decade.
You last paragraph also applies to ICE's (with more parts outside the warranty). If you can't get a manufacturer to abide by their own T's&C's, that's your fault, I've never had any warranty issue (as in a problem not claiming it) on any car, other than where I've not used manufacturer parts, but even then I still got covered. You're more likely to have an issue using a non-dealer/ specialist if they're not using manufacturer approved parts. Again, been there, been doing that for 20 years. My battery is covered to be >90% capacity after 8 years/ 100k miles, they're very specific on that. There is a reserve which can be tapped into with a software update (which is free), so could find that there's no useable range loss, in that time and could actually go up with software updates. It's irrelevant to me I'll be swapping every few years anyway, as the TCO savings make it so simple to do this, and all the time getting the latest tech and comforts. After another two changes there will be no new ICE cars to buy, and after one more change (around 2025) the ICE market will be much smaller (as all manufacturers are saying).
You're talking like none of us have owned an ICE vehicle, I've had about 20 (missus has had about 10), I've still got another (as a toy), and the missus is ICE too, and run another 4/5 in my company fleet (vans/ wagons).
I don't actually know anyone who has got an EV and then gone back to ICE, and only seen one or two mentions of it in this thread, says a lot, considering every EV owner on here has probably had 10-20 ICE cars, given the average age of users on here.
My mate just sold the EV he got new, for 15% more than he paid for it, and he's gone and bought another EV unsurprisingly.