Gaza Evacuation…

WeeGord said:
Equally, what are you considering as reliable evidence from Gaza that it was an Israeli missile that caused all of the alleged damage and horrific loss of life?
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I don't know where the missile come from and I have not made a claim one way or another. I am just pointing out that none of the above sources are particularly reliable.

Dribble questions the claims that the source of the missile has been proven with the following statement:- "The BBC have just had their experts analyse the footage and after basically claiming it came from Gaza they then said but we’re not sure..."

The missile may well have come from Gaza but to quote Israel and the US as your sources is hardly conclusive, and the and the reliability of the BBC and Guardian are questionable too.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
I don't know where the missile come from and I have not made a claim one way or another. I am just pointing out that none of the above sources are particularly reliable.

Dribble questions the claims that the source of the missile has been proven with the following statement:- "The BBC have just had their experts analyse the footage and after basically claiming it came from Gaza they then said but we’re not sure..."

The missile may well have come from Gaza but to quote Israel and the US as your sources is hardly conclusive, and the and the reliability of the BBC and Guardian are questionable too.
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I get the point you're making and agree with you - there are very few, if any, sources of news I'd trust implicitly these days.

The scary thing about this particular situation is that the 'hospital strike' that has supposedly killed at least 500 people has stirred up all sorts of hostility that is likely to increase the scale of the war massively and yet we've not really seen any hard evidence that it even happened, at least to the degree claimed. Nor have we seen any evidence that Israel as the focus of these demonstrations and increasing violence actually had anything to do with it.

These are very scary times we're living in.
 
Whilst the fake news and psy-ops is in full gear:
Israel continues to murder innocent civilians - the majority children - in the biggest concentration camp in the world.
The current total of dead is 3500+
A further 69 Palestinians have been murdered by the Israelis in the West Bank [a daily occurence never acknowledged by "Western Media"].

So what happens and who does what next?
 
Whilst scrolling my Twitter feed earlier I came across a video of a boy of around 3 years old in Gaza. He was uncontrollably shaking, eyes wide, clearly still full of adrenaline and sheer terror because of how close he had been to Israeli air strikes. He was alone, inconsolable and desperate.

I can't shake this image from my mind, along with the thought that there will be potentially 100's if not 1000's of others like him right now.

None of the civilians involved deserve this.
 
The rhetoric of the British media is so ugly and disgusting it beggars belief. Israeli’s are “murdered,” Palestinian’s are “killed” . Once again the PM of the day, Tugendhat refused to acknowledge the severity of the plight of the Palestinian population and repeated the “Israel has the right “line ,being repeated over and over again . They will not acknowledge the attacks carried out in the West Bank and else where .
 
dribble said:
The rhetoric of the British media is so ugly and disgusting it beggars belief. Israeli’s are “murdered,” Palestinian’s are “killed” . Once again the PM of the day, Tugendhat refused to acknowledge the severity of the plight of the Palestinian population and repeated the “Israel has the right “line ,being repeated over and over again . They will not acknowledge the attacks carried out in the West Bank and else where .
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This 'Israel has the right' mantra is being repeated by all the usual suspects. Starmer, Macron and Biden all falling in line. Taking the Zionist $ leaves little room for manoeuvre.
 
dribble said:
The rhetoric of the British media is so ugly and disgusting it beggars belief. Israeli’s are “murdered,” Palestinian’s are “killed” . Once again the PM of the day, Tugendhat refused to acknowledge the severity of the plight of the Palestinian population and repeated the “Israel has the right “line ,being repeated over and over again . They will not acknowledge the attacks carried out in the West Bank and else where .
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Yesterday, if you scrolled down the BBC live update feed, every third or fourth post was an Israeli victim family member talking about the horror or a picture of an Israeli victim. However there is something like 3 times as many Palestinian victims with about a third of the coverage.
 
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Magic Man said:
Whilst scrolling my Twitter feed earlier I came across a video of a boy of around 3 years old in Gaza. He was uncontrollably shaking, eyes wide, clearly still full of adrenaline and sheer terror because of how close he had been to Israeli air strikes. He was alone, inconsolable and desperate.

I can't shake this image from my mind, along with the thought that there will be potentially 100's if not 1000's of others like him right now.

None of the civilians involved deserve this.
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i know what you mean about footage.

There was a thread on yeitger showing the aftermath of the Hamas attack on the 7th. Car completely shot up, baby seat riddled with blood and bullet holes. Poor little kid.

The innocent people on both sided somehow have to overcome this. No idea how they will.
 
WeeGord said:
Equally, what are you considering as reliable evidence from Gaza that it was an Israeli missile that caused all of the alleged damage and horrific loss of life?
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I don’t believe any sources at the moment but there’s a probabilistic element you can apply to your starting presumptions.

Hamas’s missile arsenal seems to consist mostly of glorified fireworks that on the relatively rare occasions they penetrate Israel’s missile shield and “successfully” strike a target have an average casualty rate of less than 1. I can believe they have plenty of misfires. But past evidence suggests they are unlikely to have something that, misfired or not, has that destructive power.
 
FishofContemplation said:
I don’t believe any sources at the moment but there’s a probabilistic element you can apply to your starting presumptions.

Hamas’s missile arsenal seems to consist mostly of glorified fireworks that on the relatively rare occasions they penetrate Israel’s missile shield and “successfully” strike a target have an average casualty rate of less than 1. I can believe they have plenty of misfires. But past evidence suggests they are unlikely to have something that, misfired or not, has that destructive power.
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Glorified fire works, what a ridiculous thing to say. Hamas has 1000s of Fajr 5 rockets . They weigh just short of a thousand pounds and are 10 ft long. They are fired in salvos. Luckily for Israel Hamas has no way of effective guidance , they point and hope they are far enough away and facing in the right direction that the natural flight of the rocket takes it to its target. If it gets through and hits its a mass killer.
 
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