Gareth Southgate criticised for Qatar worker comments

It would have taken one of the established football nations to have boycotted the finals and others would have followed, voluntarily or by internal pressure.

It's a disgusting state of affairs and goes against everything FIFA and the FA stand for. £££ before principles.

Misery and suffering, bigotry and hypocrisy for profit.
 
go-nads! said:
It would have taken one of the established football nations to have boycotted the finals and others would have followed, voluntarily or by internal pressure.

It's a disgusting state of affairs and goes against everything FIFA and the FA stand for. £££ before principles.

Misery and suffering, bigotry and hypocrisy for profit.
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Hopefully no-one on here will be watching any of the games .
 
levendale said:
Hopefully no-one on here will be watching any of the games .
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My point above. The reality is we will all (well, most of us) watch it, despite not agreeing with it. And dare I say that if England do well, we will probably stop having debates about how awful the conditions are leading to 6750 deaths. Sad but true. We’re a very flawed species.
 
atypical_boro said:
Is it insensitive? I dunno. I am making the point that if you cancel the World Cup then you are saying 6750 people (or whatever the death toll is) have died for literally no reason. Of course, dying to host a World Cup isn't in any way justifiable either. If you're going to boycott, you really need to boycott before people start dying, or at least very early on when you've realised how bad it is (as we knew very well literally years ago).
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Let me start by saying that I think Qatar should never have been awarded the World Cup, that their human rights record in many areas is horrendous and the treatment of many migrant workers (especially construction workers) is especially bad. I believe there's good evidence of rampant corruption in the bidding process, it's ridiculous that it means playing the tournament in the middle of many major league seasons and Qatar's footballing history just doesn't qualify it as a suitable venue.

However, the frequently-quoted figure of 6,750 deaths, which comes from a Guardian article, may be a tad misleading.

On the one hand, it may be an under-estimate because it only counts deaths involving South Asian migrant workers.

On the other hand, if we're talking about the World Cup, and as the article itself points out, there is no suggestion that all these deaths are related to World Cup construction projects - or indeed, to working conditions in general. That is simply the total of all deaths, from all causes, among the specified migrant worker population over a period of ten years.

With over 2 million migrant workers living in Qatar (and as is also mentioned in the article) the total of deaths, even among a subset of these workers, is not necessarily that far out of line with the expected mortality rate in a population of that size over that period.

None of that detracts from my original paragraph and as I said I think there are many and varied reasons why Qatar should not be hosting this World Cup, it's just that the number of deaths among migrant workers may not be as strong a reason as is sometimes thought.
 
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