Gareth Bale and Golf.

Heam44

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I know nothing about golf but how good could he get in 5 years or so. Especially when he doesn’t have to work and therefore can play everyday. Also he has the finances to pay for the best training if he wants to?
 

Nano

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I know nothing about golf but how good could he get in 5 years or so. Especially when he doesn’t have to work and therefore can play everyday. Also he has the finances to pay for the best training if he wants to?
Nowhere near good enough. Tour level is way beyond scratch. I saw something the other day that said if John Rahm had a handicap he'd be a +13. Bale is a -2 which is very good but the difference between -2 and tour level is like when Usain Bolt decided to try become a footballer.
 

Heam44

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Nowhere near good enough. Tour level is way beyond scratch. I saw something the other day that said if John Rahm had a handicap he'd be a +13. Bale is a -2 which is very good but the difference between -2 and tour level is like when Usain Bolt decided to try become a footballer.
Cool, yeah I have no idea about golf 👍

Although me and my mates went to Whitley Bay pitch and putt 5/6 times and other than the first game I was unbeaten thereafter 😂
 

Soutra

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Nowhere near good enough. Tour level is way beyond scratch. I saw something the other day that said if John Rahm had a handicap he'd be a +13. Bale is a -2 which is very good but the difference between -2 and tour level is like when Usain Bolt decided to try become a footballer.

+13 sounds like an amazing handicap. The thing is though, he'd have no chance of winning any club competion at all playing off that. Given most stableford winning scores are 38 to 40 points, he'd have to go round in about 56 gross. In a medal a gross 57 might get him in the top ten. In matchplay I'd back myself to beat him since he'd have to give me about 18 shots.

Most plus handicap amateurs are close to having a good enough game to compete when they play well. One good round isn't enough though, you've got to do it on all sorts of courses in all sorts of weather, most weeks of the year. And you have to deal with the pressure of knowing if you don't qualify or miss the cut, you don't get paid. Two good rounds in an amateur event may win it.

There's a big difference.
 

uncle_rico

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+13 sounds like an amazing handicap. The thing is though, he'd have no chance of winning any club competion at all playing off that. Given most stableford winning scores are 38 to 40 points, he'd have to go round in about 56 gross. In a medal a gross 57 might get him in the top ten. In matchplay I'd back myself to beat him since he'd have to give me about 18 shots.

Most plus handicap amateurs are close to having a good enough game to compete when they play well. One good round isn't enough though, you've got to do it on all sorts of courses in all sorts of weather, most weeks of the year. And you have to deal with the pressure of knowing if you don't qualify or miss the cut, you don't get paid. Two good rounds in an amateur event may win it.

There's a big difference.
You think you'd beat Rahm in matchplay??

What are you off?
 

FatFrank

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+13 sounds like an amazing handicap. The thing is though, he'd have no chance of winning any club competion at all playing off that. Given most stableford winning scores are 38 to 40 points, he'd have to go round in about 56 gross. In a medal a gross 57 might get him in the top ten. In matchplay I'd back myself to beat him since he'd have to give me about 18 shots.

Most plus handicap amateurs are close to having a good enough game to compete when they play well. One good round isn't enough though, you've got to do it on all sorts of courses in all sorts of weather, most weeks of the year. And you have to deal with the pressure of knowing if you don't qualify or miss the cut, you don't get paid. Two good rounds in an amateur event may win it.

There's a big difference.

I'm sure Jon Rahm doesn't lose sleep whilst hugging his US Open trophy that he can't notch the monthly medal.
 

Soutra

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You think you'd beat Rahm in matchplay??

What are you off?
HI 4.3

I don't know if I'd beat him but it would be nice to play someone who is going to give me c.18 shots. That's never happened. 12 pars and a couple of birdies would give me a chance. Also a big night out before involving beer and curry might help me too, don't know how he'd handle that. 🙂
 

uncle_rico

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HI 4.3

I don't know if I'd beat him but it would be nice to play someone who is going to give me c.18 shots. That's never happened. 12 pars and a couple of birdies would give me a chance. Also a big night out before involving beer and curry might help me too, don't know how he'd handle that. 🙂
(y) I'm off 4.6 at the minute, was down to 2.0 last year after my best ever round but as soon as it came off I went back up 3 shots.

I think I'd crumble under the pressure of playing someone that good. Would be awesome to see it first hand though, and to be taking your second shot some 150 yards behind him :LOL:
 

Soutra

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(y) I'm off 4.6 at the minute, was down to 2.0 last year after my best ever round but as soon as it came off I went back up 3 shots.

I think I'd crumble under the pressure of playing someone that good. Would be awesome to see it first hand though, and to be taking your second shot some 150 yards behind him :LOL:

I try not to get too involved with what my opponent is doing. If I can get my second shot on the green then there would be pressure (ok not golf Major pressure!) on Jon Rahm to make a birdie. I doubt I'll get the chance though 😒

I'm sure Jon Rahm doesn't lose sleep whilst hugging his US Open trophy that he can't notch the monthly medal.

There might be a nagging feeling somewhere at the back of his mind that his golf career is missing the elusive monthly medal. Beating some old bloke off 30 who never hits it further than 150 yards and is still playing with the same Top Flite he found in 2010 takes some doing. 🙂
 

B-Man

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Have a look at Lou Stagner on twitter, always has some great insight on amateurs vs pros. He did some rough calcs using all the Arccos data he has a while back and reckoned to win a tour comp a 5 handicapper would have to play the same course from <2000 yards! I think on one hole he had the 5 teeing off from about 20 yards 😂
 
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