Fury vs Chisora

Priv said:
Yes but look at the rest since he came back, Seferi a joke, Pianetta, Schwarz, I know Wallin gave him a challenge because of the cut but it was expected to be easy. He didn’t have a choice with Whyte it was an enforced mandatory, yea it was easy for him but he still did his best to wriggle out of it with pathetic purse split offers. He doesn’t like challenging himself.
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The man nearly killed himself, he was massively out of shape. He was never going to throw himself into the deep end was he.

Could argue he still did cos he fought wilder no where near 100% first time round
 
Chappy112 said:
Just ignore it, this lot have lost their marbles on here where Fury is concerned.

When AJ was fighting the likes of Molina, Takam, Breazeale and even Ruiz to some extent he was building this “incredible resume”. Fury has just fought Wilder twice, Whyte and then had a keep warm fight against Chisora and it’s unacceptable.

Just by bringing Wilder up we will now have to listen to how garbage Wilder is, who has he ever beat etc.

For what it’s worth I didn’t watch the fight last night, it was never going to be very competitive but it’s a ticking over fight for a man who is known to get wildly out of shape if he goes a long time between fights. Boxers have done this forever and a day, it’s nothing new, especially off the back of the run he’s just been on. It’s exactly what AJ should do now and probably will do now if his team have any sense. It’s no different to Floyd fighting Robert Guerrero before Canelo or Baldomir before de la Hoya.

No doubt he will go on to fight Usyk or Joyce now.
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If fury wins either of those

Usyk - mismatch due to height

Joyce - easy to hit never really done anything etc etc
 
As said above , it was a ticking over fight for Fury nothing more ,nothing less , and his mate Chisora gets a few million in the bank that will hopefully convince him to retire now .
For what its worth , imo there's nobody out there who can beat a fit focused Fury , not Usyk ,not Joshua ,not Joyce.
 
Chappy112 said:
Just ignore it, this lot have lost their marbles on here where Fury is concerned.

When AJ was fighting the likes of Molina, Takam, Breazeale and even Ruiz to some extent he was building this “incredible resume”. Fury has just fought Wilder twice, Whyte and then had a keep warm fight against Chisora and it’s unacceptable.

Just by bringing Wilder up we will now have to listen to how garbage Wilder is, who has he ever beat etc.

For what it’s worth I didn’t watch the fight last night, it was never going to be very competitive but it’s a ticking over fight for a man who is known to get wildly out of shape if he goes a long time between fights. Boxers have done this forever and a day, it’s nothing new, especially off the back of the run he’s just been on. It’s exactly what AJ should do now and probably will do now if his team have any sense. It’s no different to Floyd fighting Robert Guerrero before Canelo or Baldomir before de la Hoya.

No doubt he will go on to fight Usyk or Joyce now.
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Dilian Whyte was the terminator when he was on Joshua's resume but he's a bum now Fury's beaten him.
 
BeanBeany said:
But there's really only 2 fights where the risk of losing is worth Fury fighting someone who might beat him (and one of those AJ) is debatable, any other fight against some up and coming hungry fighter only provides risk, so he'll take the easy £££ against fighters he knows he will beat 99/100
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Of course the AJ fight isn't debatable. He has the power to hurt Fury no doubt and is a better boxer than Wilder so will actually land some
 
Uwefuchs said:
Dilian Whyte was the terminator when he was on Joshua's resume but he's a bum now Fury's beaten him.
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I don't think anyone has ever said that. He was a good dangerous fighter, but not great when he fought Joshua and the same when he fought Fury
 
Sexpom said:
Joshua gets nowhere near fury for me BM, he had his chance and he didn’t sign. Usyk will be a great fight but another fury W for me.
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Joshua has gone through a tough couple of years, he needs to be at his prime, have his confidence back before fighting Fury. Joshua from 2 years ago would have been seen as a huge test for Fury and rightly so. It wasn't the right time for Joshua to fight Fury, everyone knows that, on the back of 2 losses. Lets hope he gets a couple of good wins under his belt, finds his confidence and then gets it on with Fury, because that would rightly be a mega fight.
 
BoroMart said:
Joshua has gone through a tough couple of years, he needs to be at his prime, have his confidence back before fighting Fury. Joshua from 2 years ago would have been seen as a huge test for Fury and rightly so. It wasn't the right time for Joshua to fight Fury, everyone knows that, on the back of 2 losses. Lets hope he gets a couple of good wins under his belt, finds his confidence and then gets it on with Fury, because that would rightly be a mega fight.
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I think that ship has sailed, Joshua needs to choose his next fight very carefully, I can see him fighting Joyce.
 
Sexpom said:
Joshua gets nowhere near fury for me BM, he had his chance and he didn’t sign. Usyk will be a great fight but another fury W for me.
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I don't doubt Fury is very likely to beat Joshua however, for all some on here say there are anti-Fury posters, the very same ones are anti-Joshua.

In my opinion both extremes are a bit silly. I get very frustrated with Fury because he doesn't always rake boxing seriously, he has at times fought absolute bums and whilst he has true class, he's far from the unbeatable boxing God some believe him to be.

Fury has all the tools no doubt. However, early in his career he DID lose to John McDermott whatever the record books say. There's also a very strong argument the fight against Wallin should have been stopped and Fury has never seemed keen to get back in the ring with him again.

Joshua, to his credit, got back in the ring with Usyk and Ruiz.

But this isn't even what frustrates me the most about Fury, its how he behaves. The 3rd Dec or nothing st all, then publicly being an idiot when complex negotiations are going on behind the scenes. It was almost like he was trying to distract and derail those.

I also don't buy into this Joshua is scared rubbish. He is a very good boxer but limited. One thing he doesn't lack is heart or courage otherwise he'd have given up a long time ago.

I'm a fan of both Fury and Joshua with different reasons for each. I admire that Fury has outrageous skills and footwork for a heavyweight. I admire Joshua because he's had a very good career and been a good world champion despite his limitations.

If the two ever fight, which I seriously doubt, Fury is favourite without a doubt but those who write Joshua off as a no hoper are wrong. He has the size and power to trouble Fury if he doesn't turn up prepared for the job.
 
WeeGord said:
I don't doubt Fury is very likely to beat Joshua however, for all some on here say there are anti-Fury posters, the very same ones are anti-Joshua.

In my opinion both extremes are a bit silly. I get very frustrated with Fury because he doesn't always rake boxing seriously, he has at times fought absolute bums and whilst he has true class, he's far from the unbeatable boxing God some believe him to be.

Fury has all the tools no doubt. However, early in his career he DID lose to John McDermott whatever the record books say. There's also a very strong argument the fight against Wallin should have been stopped and Fury has never seemed keen to get back in the ring with him again.

Joshua, to his credit, got back in the ring with Usyk and Ruiz.

But this isn't even what frustrates me the most about Fury, its how he behaves. The 3rd Dec or nothing st all, then publicly being an idiot when complex negotiations are going on behind the scenes. It was almost like he was trying to distract and derail those.

I also don't buy into this Joshua is scared rubbish. He is a very good boxer but limited. One thing he doesn't lack is heart or courage otherwise he'd have given up a long time ago.

I'm a fan of both Fury and Joshua with different reasons for each. I admire that Fury has outrageous skills and footwork for a heavyweight. I admire Joshua because he's had a very good career and been a good world champion despite his limitations.

If the two ever fight, which I seriously doubt, Fury is favourite without a doubt but those who write Joshua off as a no hoper are wrong. He has the size and power to trouble Fury if he doesn't turn up prepared for the job.
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I agree Joshua has the size and power to trouble Fury , unfortunately Joshua is not mentally in the right place to use those attributes , and hasn't been since the Ruiz defeat, and ill tell you this much chopping and changing trainers will do him no good at all
 
Wez68 said:
I agree Joshua has the size and power to trouble Fury , unfortunately Joshua is not mentally in the right place to use those attributes , and hasn't been since the Ruiz defeat, and ill tell you this much chopping and changing trainers will do him no good at all
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Well it might, if he can find one that can relight the fighter in him
 
BoroMart said:
Well it might, if he can find one that can relight the fighter in him
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Only he can do that as its clearly a mental thing after Ruiz stopped him , there's talk of him linking up with Roy Jones ,bad move imo ,as Jones was a one off as a fighter and has done nothing as a trainer
 
WeeGord said:
I don't doubt Fury is very likely to beat Joshua however, for all some on here say there are anti-Fury posters, the very same ones are anti-Joshua.

In my opinion both extremes are a bit silly. I get very frustrated with Fury because he doesn't always rake boxing seriously, he has at times fought absolute bums and whilst he has true class, he's far from the unbeatable boxing God some believe him to be.

Fury has all the tools no doubt. However, early in his career he DID lose to John McDermott whatever the record books say. There's also a very strong argument the fight against Wallin should have been stopped and Fury has never seemed keen to get back in the ring with him again.

Joshua, to his credit, got back in the ring with Usyk and Ruiz.

But this isn't even what frustrates me the most about Fury, its how he behaves. The 3rd Dec or nothing st all, then publicly being an idiot when complex negotiations are going on behind the scenes. It was almost like he was trying to distract and derail those.

I also don't buy into this Joshua is scared rubbish. He is a very good boxer but limited. One thing he doesn't lack is heart or courage otherwise he'd have given up a long time ago.

I'm a fan of both Fury and Joshua with different reasons for each. I admire that Fury has outrageous skills and footwork for a heavyweight. I admire Joshua because he's had a very good career and been a good world champion despite his limitations.

If the two ever fight, which I seriously doubt, Fury is favourite without a doubt but those who write Joshua off as a no hoper are wrong. He has the size and power to trouble Fury if he doesn't turn up prepared for the job.
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I’m a fury fan more than a Joshua fan but what we all are is boxing fans. My biggest frustration about last night was that it wasn’t Joshua in the ring we have been waiting a long time for this to happen but sadly it likely won’t ever happen. I think fury had to call out Usyk and I believe we will see this next year with any luck.
 
Wez68 said:
Only he can do that as its clearly a mental thing after Ruiz stopped him , there's talk of him linking up with Roy Jones ,bad move imo ,as Jones was a one off as a fighter and has done nothing as a trainer
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sports trainers work on the psychology of the sports man, or bring in specialist sports psychologists. It's not purely down to him to solve. You can train people to recover from psychological failure under pressure and deal with it better.
 
I'm not sure Joshua is as mentally broken as some fans think, none of us truly know whats going on inside his head anyway.

I just think he's just not as good as some fans thought he was, nothing wrong that.

Its heavyweight boxing and most of them are vulnerable if they get caught with a big shot and Joshua showed signs of vulnerability earlier in his career, well before he was actually beaten by Ruiz.

He's an unbelievable physical specimen, with decent power but he's just miles behind Fury and Usyk from a technical perspective. They'd both had years of sparring and fighting behind them before Joshua had even laced a pair of gloves up.

He's not on their level but that's not a disgrace, if he retired now you'd have to say he's had a great career. All the ridiculous hype from earlier in his career wasn't his fault either and its not his fault that fans got carried away with it.
 
Fury preaching mental health - also fury. Usyk looks like a rabbit !!

He will fight wilder ( not in America clearly ) whyte and John mcdermott again. Then give AJ 14 seconds to sign a contact. Retire twice then fail another drug test for nandrolone before he fights usyk.

Can’t wait till he retires for good
 
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