TeessideCleveland
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What a ridiculous rule
Forest sending off - VAR can't intervene as it was a 2nd yellow , not straight red
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S7DiscoDown
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Mike Dean said on Soccer Saturday that they are looking at changing it next season.
Still pretty ridiculous. You think some of the guff var does get envolved in.
Still pretty ridiculous. You think some of the guff var does get envolved in.
Caracticus
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Absolutely not a foul never mind yellow card
kuepper
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Did he say why they can't change it now?
If you change the rule it means VAR is getting involved 10x more per game and nobody wants that. Changing the rule so 2nd yellows are scrutinised more than 1st yellows would be daft. All good should be treated equally. VAR is there to intervene in make incidents and a yellow card isn't a major incident.
It definitely wasn't a yellow card, or even a foul, but it isn't VARs fault because it wasn't involved. It's one of the quirks that you have to live with. The fact he handed out a red card is irrelevant. It was just a booking which the referee got wrong.
It definitely wasn't a yellow card, or even a foul, but it isn't VARs fault because it wasn't involved. It's one of the quirks that you have to live with. The fact he handed out a red card is irrelevant. It was just a booking which the referee got wrong.
asredastheycome
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Unless its a second and a player get sent off. I would say thats a major incident.
TeessideCleveland
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I know. It's the rule that it can't intervene for an obvious mistake in this situation that is wrong
Because you can't just go changing the Laws of the Game half way through the season.
Law changes can only be made during the close season.
It would hardly be fair to play half the season under one set of laws and the other half according to different laws.
davidmills
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it would hardly be fair to send a player off when he has clearly done nothing wrong
afcb_acklam
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well, I enjoyed it at least. couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of 'living in the past' fans. var has managed to add so much complication, more angst, more injustice.... it's great entertainment! wot a massive fook up.
Zoophonic
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Second yellows for me should definitely be scrutinised given the importance of the decision to the game’s outcome.
That's a different argument. Whether an individual player, in an individual incident, has done something wrong and deserves to be punished is not remotely the same as the question of whether it's justified to change the laws of the game in mid-season - meaning for instance that the some teams would go on to benefit from the change whereas others who had already had players sent off in previous games during the same season (and then suspended) would not, which could alter the outcome of the season in an unequitable manner.
Do you think for instance, that it would be OK to change the laws at half time in a game, so that an incident in the second half would be treated differently to an identical incident in the first half? Because it's the same principle.
That doesn't make sense. What if there was a clearly obvious error for the first booking? You would have to use VAR for every single challenge which could warrant a yellow card which would be every single tackle, every single time the ball hits an arm, every single time a player shows dissent, diving etc. You would have to do this because otherwise you are treating players in a yellow card differently to players that aren't, including spotting potential bookings that the referee didn't spot.
You are applying the logic to the single instance in this game instead of looking at the full picture.
dooderooni
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I've just seen this and the the discussion shouldn't be about VAR which I hate with a passion. The conversation should be about the quality of officiating. For a top level ref and his assistants to see that as a foul should raise serious questions. If anything, the Bournemouth played stands on Boli's ankle, but the theatrical fall and reaction has fooled the ref. So, with that said, I guess you can add that refs need to learn how players set out to con them and stamp down on that as well.
Paulroddam7
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What about actually punishing players for cheating rather than trying to teach the impossible to officials?
dooderooni
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Surely that goes hand in hand?
Clamp down on it in game and retrospectively if the officials miss it
Paulroddam7
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I just think if the cheating is clamped down on then there’s no need to have referees second guessing what’s going on. We also have scenarios where officials aren’t giving clear fouls as they think the player has dived. It’s a minefield now and nigh on impossible for them.