Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Walk to the gym.Great suggestions so far.
Any gym/walking suggestions would be appreciated.
Walk to the gym.Great suggestions so far.
Any gym/walking suggestions would be appreciated.
Disagree. It is about calories in vs calories out. Exercise, eat healthy get a clear goal in your head and make it happen. Simple as that.Anybody who still goes on about fat being bad obviously hasnt looked into this.
Check out what caused the obesity and diabetes epidemic. It started when the american surgeon general started to advocate low fat diets for heart health. it has been proven 1000s of times to be wrong and heart disease and diabetes has risen exponentially since the 5s because of it.
It is not as simple as energy in//energy out. We absorb certain nutrients at different rates. and when we eat carbs, our body immediately produces insulin which blocks the burning of fat so that it is stored. this is science from doctors and scientists, not me.
just google 'insulin resistance'..
there was a south african doctor who promoted low fat diets for most of his career but eventually realised that it was bollox. he was destroyed by fellow doctors who had him struck off as irresposible. needless to say, he proved himself in court and was totally vindicated.
The human body does not behave the same with all food which is why calorie counting is flawed. its ok if you are burning cack loads through exercise. I dont exercise so I have to be mindful of the type of food i eat - NOT the amount of calories.
It's not "Wrong", it's science. Speak to any doctor, dietician or anyone with half of a brain cell.Nope. Wrong.
'Calories In V Calories Out is the simple science behind losing & gaining weight.' - googling this for just a couple of minutes will show just how wrong this is. I have the same argument with roid heads.
Whatever.
I knew I shouldn't have posted that cos I just knew this reply was going to follow it.
Exactly this. It's not about being on a "diet" either, it's about adjusting your life style.Disagree. It is about calories in vs calories out. Exercise, eat healthy get a clear goal in your head and make it happen. Simple as that.
You will be well trained then, I guess? You can train your body to use fat at higher intensities, whereas someone brand new will really struggle. I know a 55 year old who can do 4 hours at 32 km/h+, with a heart rate less than 130, and he doesn't eat a bean during a rideI'm quite lucky that I tend not to bonk (ooo errr Mrs!) - Did a 45 mile ride on Sunday with only a couple of pancakes for breakfast. But when I do it is horrific!!!
I tended not to worry about how many calories I was burning. If I was running a calorie deficit already any exercise was a bonus. If doing a longer ride i'd make sure I had a bar or a couple of gels in case I got hungry but nothing like big slabs of cake
It's hard but even 10 miles a day and a slightly longer ride on the weekend is 100 miles a week which is a really good effort. Even 50 miles a week would help with weightloss.
I have a power meter and find that Strava says I am burning more calories when I am using that than when Strava is just estimating it - so if the OP was using a HR monitor and Strava said that he burned 800 calories I'd say that's probably an underestimation.
It's not "Wrong", it's science. Speak to any doctor, dietician or anyone with half of a brain cell.
Exactly this. It's not about being on a "diet" either, it's about adjusting your life style.
HR monitor is good for walking yes, cycling or running outside probably not, too many variables when the pace gets upped and hills/ wind resistance have more impact, which doesn't get factored into calculations. May be off by +/-30% for high intensity.I think anything with an HR monitor is generally fine, power meter even better, it’s when apps estimate or gym machines, they tend to be very generous.
It's only flaw is how it is used. But as a law, energy in = energy out somewhere, or energy stored, it's the first law of thermodynamics effectively. If you can count your energy in and cant your energy out, then you win, if you know what you're doing with the numbers. The accuracy of calorie counting is the debatable part, but the accuracy can be massively increased or catered for, with experience and knowledge.Calorie counting is flawed.
This part is correct, but the energy that's gone to be stored as fat will just get burned next. As soon as you run out of sugar/ carbs your body will move back onto eating the fat again. The sum of the calories is important, as is the sum of the expenditure.If you eat sugar and you trigger an insulin response then your body will automatically store any fat you are digesting. Thats just how it works - we are not made for sugar but, like most animals, we are made to make use of high calorific food instantly to get the energy release but of course that was for when we were walking around looking for food and trying not to be pounced on by sabre toothed tigers etc. Its not the amount of calories that we eat, it is the type.
All calories may not be equal, you might be right on that, and your body might burn of simple carbs/ sugars easily, but may struggle with protein and burn more energy to do that, but I think there's some debate on that. Protein calories will take longer to digest, and likely keep you fuller, probably reducing the intake of other calories. The difference in types of calories is probably marginal, and nothing anywhere near as damaging as going for a Parmo and putting it down as 1,000 calories, or people forgetting to track a handful of nuts, or a can of full fat coke etc, or putting a 1 mile walk down as 500 calories etc. The system isn't flawed, but the user can be.Its not the amount of calories that we eat, it is the type.
I have read loads of books about fasting, metabolism etc. Jason Fung is very successful and a well respected doctor. His books put me straight on a few things and I strongly recommend them to anybody.
I started with Michael Moseley - he wrote some great stuff on fasting. The full benefit from fasting comes after 3 days, if memory hasn't been dissolved by alcohol. I think fasting is great but takes a lot of stamina - if I am busy at work then I tend to fast a lot and it shifts a lot of weight, especially if I have had a carb day - birthdays etc. The studies on fasting prove just how good it is for regenerating and fighting off disease etc. I keep telling myself to
You will be well trained then, I guess? You can train your body to use fat at higher intensities, whereas someone brand new will really struggle. I know a 55 year old who can do 4 hours at 32 km/h+, with a heart rate less than 130, and he doesn't eat a bean during a ride
For me, I was quite fit, but not bike fit, and not endurance (>90m fit), I did more things, more often at a lesser time, but higher intensity, rather than long slogs etc. I was always trying to make the most of the short time I had and doing it that way was the best way. That doesn't work for cycling though, not at your level and not at a level where I am now. I'd never done anything at L3-L4 for more than an hour, it's a different world haha! I can do about 3 hours now, on maybe bar and a gel, probably 2400 calories going out, and only 300 or so coming in.
Strava has me on about 900-1000 calories an hour (using HR and wahoo, but no power meter), but when I go on zwift and put in a similar effort it's got me on about 600 calories/ hr. Walking for an hour on the apple watch has me at 300/ hr. I think Strava is too high, zwift too low and the walking probably about right. It can be wildly off for cycling/ or exercise machines, there are too many variables and not enough studies.
Not sure on supercharging metabolism, but HIIT is brilliant for many things, it can help in so many ways and I don't think many doubt its effect. It's brilliant for a lot of people, especially those on a 9-5 who can fit it in before/ after work as a routine.•HIIT (bike/run or row) for 20 minutes on a morning supercharges your metabolism for the day.
I have a rowing machine and a treadmill. I'm flat out on the rower and just about bursting for 20 minutes and it tells me I burn the same amount of calories if I walk fast uphill on the treadmill. Utter bollox. I know from expereince I'm burning loads more on the rower.It's mental isn't it how they all have you down at different levels of calorie burning.
I tend to do 80% of my riding at Zone 2 - the only high intensity stuff I do is the one weekly Zwift Racing League race which since by promotion from C to B I come in around 50th It might be the Z2 stuff that lets me ride at low HR and not needing much food or drink on my rides.
Cycling is funny - once you get over the notion that you need to ride at 110% everywhere training becomes quite enjoyable and you can go quite far without eating too much. Although I do like to stop and fill my face with delicious cake and wash it down with sugary coffee
Their idea is a very simple one of calories in vs calories out.. Live in a calorie deficit and you will lose weight.
Yeah, I didn't realise how wildy things can be off, and have probably over ate on my training days. I now try not to go too nuts after a massive ride, and want to lock in that calorie deficit.It's mental isn't it how they all have you down at different levels of calorie burning.
I tend to do 80% of my riding at Zone 2 - the only high intensity stuff I do is the one weekly Zwift Racing League race which since by promotion from C to B I come in around 50th It might be the Z2 stuff that lets me ride at low HR and not needing much food or drink on my rides.
Cycling is funny - once you get over the notion that you need to ride at 110% everywhere training becomes quite enjoyable and you can go quite far without eating too much. Although I do like to stop and fill my face with delicious cake and wash it down with sugary coffee
Rower is my nemesis, it's harder for me than the indoor bike trainer going hell for leather, basically, it's harder than anything I've ever done. Wipes me out in no time, every time.I have a rowing machine and a treadmill. I'm flat out on the rower and just about bursting for 20 minutes and it tells me I burn the same amount of calories if I walk fast uphill on the treadmill. Utter bollox. I know from expereince I'm burning loads more on the rower.
I measure weight loss on body shape and belt notches!
I can drop a belt notch but weight the same..... putting muscle on while losing fat.
For me its all about how you feel about yourself, thats the ultimate goal.
Thanks I never thought of thatWalk to the gym.