Feelings for tonight?

Nano said:
This is a game we should win. Obviously, you don't win all of the games that you should win just like you don't lose all of the ones you should lose. It is the championship after all.

However, with all the negativity that has been building, Wilder saying transfers were needed and were imminent at every press conference for the last month and then for nothing to materialise has put a real downer on things. It feels like there is a disconnect between the club, the manager and the fans. We can now no longer use any of those excuses. This is our 1st chance to put things behind us after the transfer window and it would be nervy anyway. Including Sunderland (and Mowbray) just adds a bit more nervousness.

This could be the start of our recovery or the first full step towards losing the backing of the fans. Once that happens it can be hard to recover.

Hopefully it will be a win, and a comfortable one, and it will settle a lot of the nerves for the season and give us a platform.
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Is there really a disconnect between club, manager and supporters? The fans were singing Wilder’s name throughout the Watford game. It’ll be close to a sell-out tonight. The fans are very much onside IMO. The views of a few on here aren’t representative of the supporters as a whole.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Is there really a disconnect between club, manager and supporters? The fans were singing Wilder’s name throughout the Watford game. It’ll be close to a sell-out tonight. The fans are very much onside IMO. The views of a few on here aren’t representative of the supporters as a whole.
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I'd say it's growing yes... or the buzz/spark has certainly weakened since March/April. Largely down to form at the end of last season and the beginning of this one... but the transfer market hasn't helped either.

Most fans I've spoken to, when Boro are first brought up, the theme of the conversation isn't a buoyant one.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Is there really a disconnect between club, manager and supporters? The fans were singing Wilder’s name throughout the Watford game. It’ll be close to a sell-out tonight. The fans are very much onside IMO. The views of a few on here aren’t representative of the supporters as a whole.
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Would be interesting asking this question again if we get beat tonight. We simply have to win!
 
WilderBall said:
I'd say it's growing yes... or the buzz/spark has certainly weakened since March/April. Largely down to form at the end of last season and the beginning of this one... but the transfer market hasn't helped either.

Most fans I've spoken to, when Boro are first brought up, the theme of the conversation isn't a buoyant one.
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Personally I’d disagree that’s it’s growing. Obviously we have different friends and speak to different people, but my family and friends are still quite optimistic about this team. I think it’s a case of patience and seeing if we can win two or three of the next four and get moving up the league.

I’ve been impressed with some of our football. We’ve made some silly mistakes and been heavily punished. But I think that will turn in our favour. I just don’t have the sense of a disconnect or unhappiness away from this board TBH. I can’t speak for anyone else though.
 
Boro win and season kickstarted.

Dale Fry straight red from the bench for an all out physical attack (started with a running fly kick) on the Sunderland back room staff and subs.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Personally I’d disagree that’s it’s growing. Obviously we have different friends and speak to different people, but my family and friends are still quite optimistic about this team. I think it’s a case of patience and seeing if we can win two or three of the next four and get moving up the league.

I’ve been impressed with some of our football. We’ve made some silly mistakes and been heavily punished. But I think that will turn in our favour. I just don’t have the sense of a disconnect or unhappiness away from this board TBH. I can’t speak for anyone else though.
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Next 3-4 games are CRITICAL really.

We pick up wins and crack on and that confidence comes back in the stands and on the pitch and we start climbing the league... don't win any of them, and it's 1 win in 14, then the excuses of bad luck, referees, wait til the transfer window is closed, etc etc are old and I think he's on thin ice.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Is there really a disconnect between club, manager and supporters? The fans were singing Wilder’s name throughout the Watford game. It’ll be close to a sell-out tonight. The fans are very much onside IMO. The views of a few on here aren’t representative of the supporters as a whole.
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What I meant by that was the 3 factions aren't on the same page. Not necessarily that the fans are against the management or the club. You get people blaming the club/recruitment for not getting Wilder what he needed, you've got Wilder openly criticising the recruitment, some fans backing Wilder, others backing the club, criticism of Bausor/Scott/Gibson etc. It's not unified at the moment and bad results could cause those divisions to increase further.
 
WilderBall said:
Next 3-4 games are CRITICAL really.

We pick up wins and crack on and that confidence comes back in the stands and on the pitch and we start climbing the league... don't win any of them, and it's 1 win in 14, then the excuses of bad luck, referees, wait til the transfer window is closed, etc etc are old and I think he's on thin ice.
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Well I’d agree to an extent. I mean if we don’t win any of the next four then we’re in a spot of bother. I just don’t see that happening though. If we play like we have been then the results will come.
 
Heam44 said:
Boro win and season kickstarted.

Dale Fry straight red from the bench for an all out physical attack (started with a running fly kick) on the Sunderland back room staff and subs.
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Sorry, there is no way Leo stands back and allows Dale to get the first blow in if it all kicks off in the dug outs!
 
Nano said:
What I meant by that was the 3 factions aren't on the same page. Not necessarily that the fans are against the management or the club. You get people blaming the club/recruitment for not getting Wilder what he needed, you've got Wilder openly criticising the recruitment, some fans backing Wilder, others backing the club, criticism of Bausor/Scott/Gibson etc. It's not unified at the moment and bad results could cause those divisions to increase further.
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Don’t want to start an argument here but I feel like there’s some exaggeration in there. Has Wilder openly criticised recruitment? He might’ve expressed annoyance but it’s not like he’s gone on telly and done a Scott Parker or lambasted anyone.

I think as well, people on here were criticising the manager, players and staff when we went up under Aitor. McClaren used to get pelters when we were in Europe. This place is almost always divided or fragmented. Even when we win, some posters will be at pains to point out how fortuitous we were or how it should’ve been 3-1, not 2-1, and how the recruitment team is to blame for it.

I think away from this board meeting it IS unified TBH. Manager and chairman’s names being sung, sold our away games, big crowds at home, loads more season tickets shifted than expected…

Of course a bad result or two might change things but the people are behind the club/manager/players at this moment in time. I think there’s a sense we could be on the edge of something good.
 
Diego said:
Nervous? Confident? Excited?
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Nervous. Just as we have had a bad patch stretching into last season they have had a good one stretching into last season. We are getting better but that doesn't automatically make us better than them, we have to fight and win our battles all across the pitch to earn that right. UTB
 
On paper it's barely a contest. That said, we all know how the start to the season has panned out.

Surely we can't keep dominating sides and not winning? I can't actually remember many teams going on such a run as long as ours currently. :ROFLMAO:
 
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