Exercise. I'm heading towards my 60th birthday.....

[Quicksilvera]

It’s complete coswallop.
The only thing that will make you lose weight is calorie deficit. How someone gets to that deficit is down to them.
Want to put on muscle? Then I’m afraid you’ll need a calorie surplus.
The extremely tricky thing then is not trying to put on fat at the same time.
That’s why the vast majority of us don’t look like a men’s health cover.

It really isn’t codswallop, building muscle growth or strength increases your metabolic rate which aids in fat loss.

Switching your diet to include a lot more protein is also key to this.

Beginners to lifting weights or if you haven’t trained for a long time can build muscle on a calorie deficit and also maintain.

But don’t take my word for it do some research I’ve done it for years.

 

[gramercy]

Strength does not burn calories.

I’ll concede that an increased metabolic rate or a little more muscle mass will increase the calories you burn at rest. (Not by as much as a lot of people would like to think).
But if you’re consuming more calories than you expend you’ll still put on fat.

By the same token, if you don’t eat enough you can fling as much weight about as you like, you’ll struggle to put on muscle. But you may lose weight. But only if in < out.

 

[Nano]

Move more, eat less. If calories in are less than calories out you will lose weight.

Doesn't matter what you do exercise wise if you are eating more calories than you are burning. You can get fitter and still put on weight if you are eating too much and you can lose weight without doing a single bit of exercise.

It's far easier to not eat a chocolate bar than to eat it and try and burn off the calories.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Strength does not burn calories.

I’ll concede that an increased metabolic rate or a little more muscle mass will increase the calories you burn at rest. (Not by as much as a lot of people would like to think).
But if you’re consuming more calories than you expend you’ll still put on fat.

By the same token, if you don’t eat enough you can fling as much weight about as you like, you’ll struggle to put on muscle. But you may lose weight. But only if in < out.

you’re right over consuming calories does lead to weight gain or bulking but you can gain muscle mass even with a 500 calorie daily deficit.

Whether it’s a struggle or not depends on the person and their genetics.

 

[Centralscrutinizer]

(not by as much as a lot of people would like to think).

Not a lot at all. 1 pound of muscle adds less than 10 calories a day to your base metabolism.

 

[sherlock]

I think some on here are making the mistake of thinking all calories are equal.

They are not.

 

[Ebor]

I'm coming up 60. I bought a smartwatch. It helped in as much as I can check steps and cardio and if it's really bad it forces me to do some more exercise that week.

I know I don't do enough, I drink, smoke and eat loads of cake and stuff. I'm lucky as I have a high metabolism, so I'm not fat but I know I'm not as healthy as I was or as my size would suggest. I can still out march the Mrs up a hill and she's 5 years younger, doesn't smoke and eats healthier. But I know it's just a matter of time before my lifestyle bites me and I keep trying harder and harder to get more physical and less lazy/greedy
[Just weighed myself. I'm just short of 11 stone, 6ft - and I reckon a quarter of that is my beer belly ]

 

[HolgateCorner]

When I turned 60 a couple of years ago the missus got me a new exercise machine - a spaniel puppy.

He keeps me moving, let there be no doubt about that….he’s like a Duracell dog.

 

[gramercy]

I think some on here are making the mistake of thinking all calories are equal.

They are not.

They are

 

[sherlock]

They are

They really aren’t.

You’re saying someone who eats 2,000 calories a day from a balanced diet will see the same results as someone who eats 2,000 calories a day from chocolate and cakes?

Nonsense.

 

[Quicksilvera]

They are

They really aren’t.

 

[asredastheycome]

Another good one instead of running etc is to get a step counter and do a minimum of 10k per day but do it every day.

Saw a documy on TV that said three shorter walks a day was better than that.

 

[gramercy]

They’re an Si unit. Like Newtons, Joules, Watts etc.
They very literally are.

 

[gramercy]

They really aren’t.

You’re saying someone who eats 2,000 calories a day from a balanced diet will see the same results as someone who eats 2,000 calories a day from chocolate and cakes?

Nonsense.

In terms of weight loss / gain. Yes.

 

[sherlock]

In terms of weight loss / gain. Yes.

Human nutrition and metabolism is not as simple as that though.

Once those calories go into the body it is not ‘a calorie is a calorie’ in terms of weight loss.

Are all calories the same? – Diet Doctor

Calories are a unit of energy and are all the same outside the body. But they are not the same inside your body! Eat better, not less.

www.dietdoctor.com

“Once you understand how calories from various foods affect your metabolism differently, it should be clear why eating better can ultimately lead to healthy, sustained weight loss and improved metabolic health.

So, are all calories the same? Definitely not when you consider their effect on your health, your weight, and how they make you feel.”

 

[Quicksilvera]

Human nutrition and metabolism is not as simple as that though.

Once those calories go into the body it is not ‘a calorie is a calorie’ in terms of weight loss.

Are all calories the same? – Diet Doctor

Calories are a unit of energy and are all the same outside the body. But they are not the same inside your body! Eat better, not less.

www.dietdoctor.com

“Once you understand how calories from various foods affect your metabolism differently, it should be clear why eating better can ultimately lead to healthy, sustained weight loss and improved metabolic health.

So, are all calories the same? Definitely not when you consider their effect on your health, your weight, and how they make you feel.”

What you’re saying is correct, gramercy’s views on calories and training were correct 20-30 years ago. The physical spectrum is evolving all the time but it essentially comes down to activity, diet and protein intake and calorie consumption (eating the correct calories from healthy food).

 

[gramercy]

I’ll agree completely on the bit about their effect on your health and how they make you feel.

However, and your argument isn’t with me here, it’s with the laws of thermodynamics.
If you consume more calories, whether that be parmos or lettuce; then you expend, whether that be running marathons or watching telly……you’ll put on weight.

 

[sherlock]

I’ll agree completely on the bit about their effect on your health and how they make you feel.

However, and your argument isn’t with me here, it’s with the laws of thermodynamics.
If you consume more calories, whether that be parmos or lettuce; then you expend, whether that be running marathons or watching telly……you’ll put on weight.

No one said you wouldn’t

 

[Quicksilvera]

I’ll agree completely on the bit about their effect on your health and how they make you feel.

However, and your argument isn’t with me here, it’s with the laws of thermodynamics.
If you consume more calories, whether that be parmos or lettuce; then you expend, whether that be running marathons or watching telly……you’ll put on weight.

You’re right but it doesn’t mean all calories are the same.

 

[Druss_The_Legend]

This video is good and easy to understand. Also some of his other videos are useful. I'm on day 6 today and I feel like I have more energy and my mood seems better. Might be because I'm a pretty much lifelong vegetarian but recently started taking protein shakes a couple of times a day(6 days ago) and I could of lacked in some nutrients or vitamins. I can't train much due to back problems, but I have managed to do a 5 day split routine using resistance bands(I chose a 5 day routine so I could do a little bit 5 evenings a week rather than injuring my back by overdoing it 3 times a week).
It is still early days but it's the first time in nearly 20 years I have felt really motivated to lose weight and try to get a bit fitter.