ERIC DIER

Probably and hard not to agree with it. Jumping into the stand and confronting fans (despite the apparent provocation) isn't on.

I think it further highlights the problem with English football and perhaps football in general. Why do fans think they're allowed to give players awful abuse?
 
It’s society as a whole and social media has empowered people to be less respectful and more entrenched in their views.

Stronger stewarding and better policing would help but we live in a vitriolic world and without Dier’s reaction the abuse of players at the game would have passed without comment.
 
The issue is other fans would rather stand by and let the abuse happen, then film somebody confronting it. Rather than confronting it themselves or filming the person giving out the abuse to shame them. People want the kudos and clicks, rather than doing the right thing. Society is pretty much Fuched.
 
If I was on their wages you can say whatever you want to me
Nope that's just wrong. They are paid to entertain us, we don't own them, we don't have any right to abuse them at all. Nothing to do with how much they are paid they do not deserve abuse.

As for not confronting an abuser near you in the ground, I have heard racist abuse near me in grounds but it is very difficult unless it is the chap next to you to be sure who said what. Not sure how Dier knew who his abuser was perhaps his brother was involved? How long was Cantona banned for the Kung Fu kick? Alright there was no actual assault but that is the only parallel I can think of.
 
We have no idea what the abuse was so... Can't really say anything about the fan.

We can however say that Eric Diers' reaction is completely unacceptable and deserves a long ban.
Simple as that really.
 
Nope that's just wrong. They are paid to entertain us, we don't own them, we don't have any right to abuse them at all. Nothing to do with how much they are paid they do not deserve abuse.

You've never shouted in anger at a player?

If everybody who's shouted abuse at a player during a football match was sent home, the stadiums would be empty.
 
You've never shouted in anger at a player?

If everybody who's shouted abuse at a player during a football match was sent home, the stadiums would be empty.

By all accounts, he went in to the stands to defend his brother.

I don't think being highly paid excuses your family receiving abuse.

He'll probably be rightly punished for it, you can't attempt to confront fans like that, but I don't particularly blame him wanting to defend his family.
He's not assaulted anyone, he's shouted at somebody for abusing him and his family over a game.
 
I would much prefer the game of football to address the increasing problem of abuse (physical, verbal and racist) that comes from the stands. Eric Dier did what a great many of us would have done. Rather than punish him, deal with the actual problem which is that people feel empowered, legitimised and entitled to abuse footballers without consequence.
 
Few scenarios see emotions as high as that of during a football match.

It's OK to vent anger at poor play, just as it's OK be show elation when a goal is scored.

As long as no law is being broken I don't see a problem.
 
Did people see the fanny on the orange hood leg it though when Dier went climbing after him? 🤣🤣🤣
 
Few scenarios see emotions as high as that of during a football match.

It's OK to vent anger at poor play, just as it's OK be show elation when a goal is scored.

As long as no law is being broken I don't see a problem.

Perhaps it's just me but I completely disagree. If you lose control so much that you shout abuse, you need to really consider how you manage yourself. I love sport but it's not worth getting that worked up over.
 
Perhaps it's just me but I completely disagree. If you lose control so much that you shout abuse, you need to really consider how you manage yourself. I love sport but it's not worth getting that worked up over.

There are varying opinions on what 'abuse' actually is.

Calling a striker an 'idiot' for missing an open goal is abuse but I can't see anyone pulling someone up for that.
 
There are varying opinions on what 'abuse' actually is.

Calling a striker an 'idiot' for missing an open goal is abuse but I can't see anyone pulling someone up for that.
Football seems to be the only arena in life where you can shout, swear and generally abuse whoever you like in whatever way you like. If people went down a shopping street behaving like they do at football matches they would be taken away by men in white suits never to be let out again.
 
Few scenarios see emotions as high as that of during a football match.

It's OK to vent anger at poor play, just as it's OK be show elation when a goal is scored.

As long as no law is being broken I don't see a problem.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting passionate reactions be they angry or not is the problem. Venting abuse, displaying aggressive behaviour, using threatening or abusive words are clearly elements of various public order offences and yet generally completely ignored in football grounds. That’s what I’m talking about.
 
Do we actually know what the 'fan' was doing? Because from the clips I've seen you can't see or more importantly hear anything..
 
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