Dominic Cummings

#42
What does. A company announcing its closing due to world economic changes. Zero mention of the government or Brexit which won’t take long for people to suggest.

If there is an axe to grind, do it with Honda. They have made a statement or are the tin foil hat brigade going to suggest they are lying?
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
#43
Brexit will have been a factor, they have no other European factory and it just happens to confirm its closure a couple of weeks after we (sort of) leave the EU.
Honda won’t say it directly because they will still want to sell cars here so they wont want to fall out with the natives by blaming them.
 
#44
Ahhh right. So a company blames Brexit uncertainty as in the past or future. It’s down to Brexit. They don’t blame Brexit and still Brexit

basically you can’t lose
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
#45
No you are of course right, this argument can’t lose, but your toff boys have managed to con their way into continuing in government and they are going to be blamed for everything from now on, no more excuses for Cummings and co.
 
#46
Come on.... they hardly conned there way in. Labour were up against a minority government and managed to have one of their worst results in their history.

For labour to move forward they must learn from their mistakes not just blame everyone else
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
#48
I agree there were plenty of lessons for Labour to learn but the election surrounded a Brexit that the Tories could have delivered by now if their own rebels (including Johnson) hadn’t frustrated Theresa May and yet the Tory propoganda machine managed to con northern Brexit voters that the same man was the one to deliver Brexit. Oh and this ‘oven ready’ deal was just a straightforward lie, the ingredients haven‘t even been chosen yet. Very disingenuous I’m afraid regardless of Labour‘s performance, the Tories just found a way to use those Brexit votes to get another few years in government.
 
#50
Labour could have also passed Mays deal instead of pushing on for the 2nd ref which was never there. If they did they would now be in opposition against may in a weak government and have a great shout in an election with Brexit out the way
 
#54
Come on bear.... do you not think labour would have been better voting through mays deal and continuing in opposition for couple years.

no way would town like Redcar fall after that. Turley would have gone through with a reduced majority
 
#55
Diesel or brexit to blame, depending on your bias
No, the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan meaning Honda can produce these cars at home and export them to Europe tariff free. Basically the EU gets to export cars to Japan without tariffs in return (great news for German car makers apparently). Its also a factor in what is affecting changes to the product line up at Nissan in Sunderland.
 

Zoophonic

Well-known member
#56
I can only recall Cooper for his contributions on political threads on the old Board. Nothing about football. Which is an indictment of his social media habit - even if he tries to say that he dislikes political threads which he clearly doesn’t of course.
 
#57
I can only recall Cooper for his contributions on political threads on the old Board. Nothing about football. Which is an indictment of his social media habit - even if he tries to say that he dislikes political threads which he clearly doesn’t of course.
oh yeah yet another post that is just completely different to what I said. It’s like people don’t even read what had been posted or even worse aren’t bright enough to understand.
Could you enlighten me to where I said I don’t like political threads

good lad!
 

SmallTown

Well-known member
#58
I can only recall Cooper for his contributions on political threads on the old Board. Nothing about football. Which is an indictment of his social media habit - even if he tries to say that he dislikes political threads which he clearly doesn’t of course.
To be fair he IS good at them, in a modern way. He'll either deflect when he doesn't like a post or try and weasel out of being caught out by saying "ah, that isn't EXACTLY what I said" without actually clarifying what he said. Clever in a way. Tedious but clever
 
#59
Ok then.... your posts are the most tedious. You just literally talk about others deflecting. I am happy to answer straight question. Can’t see where I haven’t. Problem is others just actually not even reading what’s been posted and copying other posters. Example I have never said I don’t like political threads and I have said I will respond in them

along comes Zoophonic claiming I have said somewhere I have said I don’t like them. I see he hasn’t pointed to a post yet where I said what is claimed :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 

SmallTown

Well-known member
#60
You actually could be a politician. You have all the negative traits. Whataboutery, deflection, and failure to clarify what you mean in the hope of tying the person you are talking to up in knots
 
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