Dishwashers
- Thread starter red_harrington
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I'd never had a dishwasher until last year. (Actually that's a lie, I had one in an apartment in Australia for a year but I never used it).
I was always quite happy just to wash up. Now I absolutely hate having to wash up and can't imagine life without it. Don't know where I found the time.
Boro in Devon
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It is great for cleaning my classic bike parts.
I usually mange to lick the plates clean, nothing wasted in my house.
I usually mange to lick the plates clean, nothing wasted in my house.
Norman_Conquest
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Without trawling right through this thread to see if others have mentioned it, modern dishwashers are more hygienic and water efficient compared to hand washing.
sadgit
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They have a filter?
Never cleaned mine. Rinse main crap off before and never wash glasses and pans in ours.
red_harrington
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Which would you recommend?
I've had Bosch and currently Siemens, same problem with both
wilkos_perm
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You probably don't have to if you're doing that. We do ours very rarely the detergent must break everything down enough to pass through it.They have a filter?
It's kind of a weird white mush that form on the underside of ours.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Nope, plenty of them on YouTube and TikTok though
Makes sense really as most people don't wash dishes under running water and will reuse sponges or scrubbers. If you do use running water for cleanliness, it'll be a lot of water and that'll be heated.
Studies have shown washing the same amount as a full dishwasher manually used between 14-23 litres if using a tub. Running the tap during washing constantly used 123 litres. Using a modern dishwasher uses under 10 litres
Washing a full dishwasher load by hand, properly, takes approx 60 minutes. I'm sure everyone will claim they are The Flash and it takes 5 minutes, but this is from university study comparing the differences so it will have involved timing the activity multiple times.
I think all dishwashers have them. Detergent may brake some stuff down but theres some stuff that seems to live in there forever. Sweetcorn for example is going nowhere, it shouldn't be going in of course, but if somehow it does get in, you can bet there is some in the filter
As to why they have them, I suppose its because otherwise the pipe to the sink may clog over time especially if people are lazy and put a lot of food in there, or even glasses may chip and that can end in there. Sinks have those little metal parts that stop large items going down the sink, but if something does go down its fairly easy to pop the sink u-bend off, cleaning gout the dishwasher hose would probably be a nightmare.If in the market for one, my best advice is to get one with 1) adjustable shelf height as its a godsend for when doing large items and 2) get one with a cutlery tray at the top, I'd never had this before and always had a basket. Having the tray is a game changer, and leaves a lot more space below, and has 4 rows so can it loads in it, it only takes up about an inch and a half at the very top.
Also if you arent already doing so, use it on the eco mode. It seems counter productive as it takes forever (Ours runs for 3 hours 30 minutes) but the fast cycles use a lot more power as they heat up the water to a higher temp and maintain it, which is how theyre so fast. Eco mode uses a lower temperature but takes longer, but consumes far less power to do so.
Rofesleg
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Not sure how anyone can think washing by hand is quicker and more hygienic.
Unless you change the water / suds after every few items. To ensure it is both clean and at an acceptable temperature. (Which is actually too hot for my hands. But to be fair, they are rubbish hands).
And then regularly wash the sponge or whatever during the wash.
And then you have to rinse all the suds off straightaway.
Then the drying. Do you use the same tea towel for everything or do you go through several clean ones every time? Particularly for glasses.
In fact, I think drying by hand is the most unhygienic part of the process.
Or if you drip dry, how long does that take and how much room do you need on the draining board?
Unless you change the water / suds after every few items. To ensure it is both clean and at an acceptable temperature. (Which is actually too hot for my hands. But to be fair, they are rubbish hands).
And then regularly wash the sponge or whatever during the wash.
And then you have to rinse all the suds off straightaway.
Then the drying. Do you use the same tea towel for everything or do you go through several clean ones every time? Particularly for glasses.
In fact, I think drying by hand is the most unhygienic part of the process.
Or if you drip dry, how long does that take and how much room do you need on the draining board?
weststandwally
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Our first dishwasher supplied with the kitchen only lasted two years,we replaced it with a Currys Essential model and it’s been used daily for about 13 years with no problems,we do clean the filters regularly and use a bottle of dishwasher cleaner every six weeks though.
As for rinsing crockery etc i find certain food wastes I.e porridge and potato need a good rinse if your not putting the dishwasher straight away.
Uncle_Marbles
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Dark nights = dishwasher
Light nights = hand wash and admire garden / watch birds etc
Light nights = hand wash and admire garden / watch birds etc
Juninhoburger
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Step 1. Rinse all plates, cutlery, glasses/mugs, baking trays, pots and pans
2. Wash glasses, cutlery/mugs and baking trays. Leave on draining board.
3. Empty sink, clean sponge and refill.
4. Dry glasses, cutlery and baking trays and put away
5. Wash plates and pots and pans. Leave on draining board. Dry after an hour or if they've dried by then, simply put away.
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Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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I've had loads of dishwashers in various rented houses. Shared and one bed. They never get used because it's easier to just wash by hand.
All the rinsing you have to do. Fannying on with tablets. Stacking everything in there. Taking it all out again. Checking they've been cleaned properly. Washing things again because they're still dirty.
Just bung it all in the sink add a squirt of fairy and it's done in five minutes.
So if you are a landlord reading this. No dishwashers. Give me a tumble dryer.
All the rinsing you have to do. Fannying on with tablets. Stacking everything in there. Taking it all out again. Checking they've been cleaned properly. Washing things again because they're still dirty.
Just bung it all in the sink add a squirt of fairy and it's done in five minutes.
So if you are a landlord reading this. No dishwashers. Give me a tumble dryer.
Juninhoburger
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99% of my family's cooking is "stick something from the freezer on a baking tray" as I have 3 young kids and work 60 hours a weekSimple as that
Rofesleg
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Interesting.
Some questions/observations:
Where do you put the wet plates, pots and pans after step 1 until step 5?
Do you rinse between 2 & 3? And during 5? Or do you leave everything full of soapy suds on the draining board?
I think you are being a bit cheeky rolling everything up in no. 5.
It should be at least steps 5, 6 & 7. Maybe even 8 as well.
Wash, drain, dry, put away.
Personally, I would need to repeat Number 3 at least 3 more times.
But step 4 and the drying part of 5 is where the real nastiness lies
ThatFragranceGuy
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Genuinley impressive how much like hard work you've made the process of putting dishes into a dishwasher, popping in a tablet and emoting it later sound. Fannying around with tablets?! What are you doing with them? You take one out, you put it in. Some dishwashers you don't even have to do that anymore as, like with washing machines, modern machines are starting to auto dose detergent so you just top it up every now and then
I spent years without a dishwasher, and I hate doing washing up. you're either full, and it's the least enjoyable thing in the world to start doing, or you leave them there until later which is gross.
Putting the dishes into the dishwasher after a meal takes a minute at best. We don't have kids so the dishwasher goes on once every 2-3 days as it's a good size. Putting a tablet in takes 15 seconds and that is being generous.
Washing a fully loaded dishwasher load manually, we're talking here up to 9 meals worth plus snacks or whatever. 9 sets of washing, drying or putting away, or less if you leave everything in a pile to do in one go, but that wouldn't fly in our house.
Even if you could do that entire process in 5 minutes, you'd still be spending a lot more time doing it manually vs a couple of seconds to chuck stuff in, "fannying around with a tablet" and taking it out when it's done. Let's not forget that the putting it in and putting it away steps also exist in manual washing up, they don't teleport into the sink or back into the cupboard. It might be 5 minutes if you cook for one and just have one baking tray, plate and a knife and fork but 5 minutes to wash, dry and put away for 2-4 people? Plus pans, glasses etc? Maybe if you've got a production line set up and one person washes, one person dries, one person puts away etc. even skipping the drying part and air drying, it's still a lot more effort at the time I'd want to be doing it least.
I can think of probably 5 times in the last 6 years of owning our dishwasher that some food as been stuck on after a cycle. It's not really a hardship - it goes back in. Never had it not be clean after that.
From the sound of some of these posts people either need better dishwashers or better tablets as something isn't right if dishes are coming out dirty