Denmark to hold talks over European teams quitting FIFA

Colgates_shaving_foam

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I would love FIFA to collapse and have a reinvention of a world governing body for football..
Also, if true the Saudis investment arm want to purchase both Man United AND Liverpool,the quicker the premier League implodes the better too....
I joked about Newcastle fans not enjoying the Saudi takeover so much when they are having to catch flights to Riyadh to watch their team play every week.

Who knows what the future holds.
 

festa5

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Although I hate everything that FIFA stands for, I would be worried that the Yanks or money men took more control over the game and it would become unrecognisable to the game we all grew with (it's already taken place to some extent). When America held the last world cup, they tried to split the game into quarters to allow for more advertisement.

Saying that Arsene Wenger, the man who stated footballers play too much football, carried out a feasibility study on holding the world cup every two years. This was all about greed.

I would need to know what and who was going to replace it and hope I wasn't jumping out of the pan and into the fire. And as Jedi said, you only have to look at how the golfs have been split to know you can't have two competing governing bodies.

I applaud Denmark for suggesting breaking away but the time to act on FIFA was prior to this world cup taking place with nations refusing to attend. I truly feel that countries have missed the opportunity to make a change.

Plus of course it's not like our own governing body is perfect. Pretty far from it, look at some of the "fit and proper" owners we've allowed to buy some of our clubs.

That said I do think FIFA needs challenging/changing and with genuine teeth behind it. It's a joke how corrupt it is, they don't even bother hiding it really now.

There's always excuses not to do anything. It's too late, it's too hypocritical, we don't know the alternative is any better etc. But the problem with that of course is that nothing actually changes and could actually get worse. Infantino already thinks he's untouchable. As it stands he probably is.

If enough top footballing countries threaten to split, it might be a bit messy, but ultimately FIFA will have to compromise because most of the money in the game is generated in the European game.
 

h_m_boro

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Let's face it, nothing will happen.

Infantino will morph into Blatter.
North Korea will get the 2030 WC
England will be left puzzled as their latest bid is a failure, Lichtenstein or Gibraltar pipping them.
Corruption and backhanders continue as a "perk of the job"

Complete joke, but too powerful to be brought back to earth, representing the people's game.
 

Jedi boro

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Let's face it, nothing will happen.

Infantino will morph into Blatter.
North Korea will get the 2030 WC
England will be left puzzled as their latest bid is a failure, Lichtenstein or Gibraltar pipping them.
Corruption and backhanders continue as a "perk of the job"

Complete joke, but too powerful to be brought back to earth, representing the people's game.
I don’t think so, I think infantino had played the quiet man after blatter left up until now but not anymore as his frankly bizarre outbursts hsve pretty much alienated himself to the footballing world.

I know he was re elected recently but make no mistake this has been a huge PR disaster for FIFA and more importantly for their sponsors so I just can’t see infantino surviving after this.
 

NYboro

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I don’t think so, I think infantino had played the quiet man after blatter left up until now but not anymore as his frankly bizarre outbursts hsve pretty much alienated himself to the footballing world.

I know he was re elected recently but make no mistake this has been a huge PR disaster for FIFA and more importantly for their sponsors so I just can’t see infantino surviving after this.
I hope you're right.
 

TeaCider

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I don’t think so, I think infantino had played the quiet man after blatter left up until now but not anymore as his frankly bizarre outbursts hsve pretty much alienated himself to the footballing world.

I know he was re elected recently but make no mistake this has been a huge PR disaster for FIFA and more importantly for their sponsors so I just can’t see infantino surviving after this.

He hasn't been re-elected yet, it's just no other candidate put their name forward before the deadline.

So the election, which is next year, will be uncontested.

Could still see many FAs refuse to endorse him, if nothing else.
 

dooderooni

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If the European nations force the issue then FIFA will either have to change or they'll see their main moneymakers look elsewhere.
FIFA aren't in a strong position right now so if change is going to come then now is the time to put the pressure on.
Worrying about what the alternative might be as a reason to let FIFA continue in its current guise will only result in things getting worse, not better.
 

Norman_Conquest

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Plus of course it's not like our own governing body is perfect. Pretty far from it, look at some of the "fit and proper" owners we've allowed to buy some of our clubs.

That said I do think FIFA needs challenging/changing and with genuine teeth behind it. It's a joke how corrupt it is, they don't even bother hiding it really now.

There's always excuses not to do anything. It's too late, it's too hypocritical, we don't know the alternative is any better etc. But the problem with that of course is that nothing actually changes and could actually get worse. Infantino already thinks he's untouchable. As it stands he probably is.

If enough top footballing countries threaten to split, it might be a bit messy, but ultimately FIFA will have to compromise because most of the money in the game is generated in the European game.
If the European nations force the issue then FIFA will either have to change or they'll see their main moneymakers look elsewhere.
FIFA aren't in a strong position right now so if change is going to come then now is the time to put the pressure on.
Worrying about what the alternative might be as a reason to let FIFA continue in its current guise will only result in things getting worse, not better.
I agree that FIFA needs overhauling and would throw UEFA into that. I stated on another thread that I had hoped a so called big name player/squad would have refused to attend the world cup to see how FIFA would have dealt with it. I just think all these nations are making their statements far too late to impact the Qatar world cup.

I don't know how many of you have had dealings with the North Riding FA, you only have to see how this section of the FA works to know that the suits in charge don't have a clue and it is all about money and the image. I am sure it will get worse the higher up the ladder you go. What these people don't realise is it is them who are tarnishing the image by not being all inclusive.

Infantino should be made to resign at the end of this world cup, a shake up of FIFA and how it is run should take place and then continue down the ladder.
 

Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret

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Well we had an alternative to uefa at least. Super league. Then everyone started moaning and it got canned. Despite the fact we would have a far better national League had all the big teams ****ed off.
 

festa5

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Well we had an alternative to uefa at least. Super league. Then everyone started moaning and it got canned. Despite the fact we would have a far better national League had all the big teams ****ed off.
I'd have been happy to see them **** off.

That wasn't the proposal though Sheriff. They still wanted to play in their domestic leagues too (just rake in even more money and gain an even bigger advantage than they already have).
 

Matt

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Genuinely annoys me as someone who loves the World Cup that as football lovers we’ve had to sit through three tournaments in a row with gritted teeth.

2018 Russia - joke, corrupt when it was awarded, invaded a sovereign European country before the tournament even happened

2022 Qatar - the biggest joke of all

2026 USA - joke, they had it 22 years ago so far too soon to repeat, and it’s a niche sport, be like holding the World Series of baseball in Belgium

That’s two countries with zero to hardly any culture of football, two countries whose human rights issues are off the scale, one country who would never qualify in a million years on a sporting basis, and the other two who would be lucky to get out of the group stage in a normal year, and certainly won’t ever be winning it.

It’s supposed to be the showpiece celebration of everything that’s beautiful about football, in a country which is passionate about football - and have earned the right to host.

Can’t believe it’s 16 years between tournaments that I’d even consider attending.
32 years, which isn't that bad - and the sport has moved on considerably from then
 

Otto42

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Be careful what you wish for, despite many imperfections FIFA does ensure a global and competitive game. Break up of FIFA would probably kill the international game as we know it and then domestic leagues, as FIFA have rules about sanctioning competitions and clubs in dispute with their own governing bodies.
 

Expat Smoggie

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Politics and sport are not a good combo and as we become more political in our daily lives I just see things going from bad to worse.

In the end the Americans and the top power brokers will probably run the game— the choice of 2026 WC was basically done by coca-cola and Budweiser. Shall we really quit FIFA over an armband? I mean is it so important to quit over a matter of principle?

The Danes are not going to get much support for pulling out imo, plus they could have waited until their side was out of the tournament or until the tournament was done before they spouted more political rhetoric which obviously adds more negativity to a tournament blighted by corruption and deceit.

But let’s face it the awarding of the German WC was also blighted by corruption— the English FA were kicked in the teeth by FIFA during that process, so should we be surprised by what we have seen after that?— probably not. FIFA represents big business and big companies who want their brand to run the game— along with the support of politicians who manage the finer elements of how sport for the masses is run today.
 

JackG

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I agree that FIFA needs overhauling and would throw UEFA into that. I stated on another thread that I had hoped a so called big name player/squad would have refused to attend the world cup to see how FIFA would have dealt with it. I just think all these nations are making their statements far too late to impact the Qatar world cup.

I don't know how many of you have had dealings with the North Riding FA, you only have to see how this section of the FA works to know that the suits in charge don't have a clue and it is all about money and the image. I am sure it will get worse the higher up the ladder you go. What these people don't realise is it is them who are tarnishing the image by not being all inclusive.

Infantino should be made to resign at the end of this world cup, a shake up of FIFA and how it is run should take place and then continue down the ladder.
The game is corrupt from top to bottom - FIFA, UEFA, many of the individual FAs, clubs, and other participants. The only question is how cheaply can they be bought?
 
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