Dean Windass to sue football authorities

[fmttmadmin]

The solution is fairly clear - remove heading from the game. What is less clear is how we move from here to there.

Remove it from training is the best step forward. Or at least greatly reduce initially and phase heading out of the junior game.
Professionals are more at risk than amateurs because they train 4x a week. All those impacts can add up. Scotand is in front (a-head) of England and Wales on this

 

[B_G]

Remove it from training is the best step forward. Or at least greatly reduce initially and phase heading out of the junior game.
Professionals are more at risk than amateurs because they train 4x a week. All those impacts can add up. Scotand is in front (a-head) of England and Wales on this

Limiting training time is definitely key but this is already in place at junior football. This is the FA guidance.




Local kids aren't allowed to head the ball in matches either as the TJFA have opted in to the "No Heading Pilot Scheme". Well at least until U13.

My current U11 team have never headed a ball at training or in matches.

 

[Anton_Berg]

If it hasn't been said already, rugby players don't head the ball but there are similar concerns in the game. Maybe if football had less of 'the mixer' and set- pieces.

 

[B_G]

If it hasn't been said already, rugby players don't head the ball but there are similar concerns in the game. Maybe if football had less of 'the mixer' and set- pieces.

Surely the biggest contributing factor would be heading the ball from goal kicks and big lumps out of the hands. Where the same defender would maybe head it 10 times from 60 ft out the air through a match.
That side of the game has already been massively reduced with most teams opting to play short where they can now.

I doubt our CBs head it more than half a dozen times most weeks and everyone else even less than that

 

[SilentProf]

Surely the biggest contributing factor would be heading the ball from goal kicks and big lumps out of the hands. Where the same defender would maybe head it 10 times from 60 ft out the air through a match.
That side of the game has already been massively reduced with most teams opting to play short where they can now.

I doubt our CBs head it more than half a dozen times most weeks and everyone else even less than that

It is the training drills where the most damage is believed to be done. Defenders even in the age groups would have the ball booted high towards them and have to clear it as far down the pitch as possible repeatedly for 5-10 minutes in a row during a session. It’s not done that way these days.

 

[B_G]

It is the training drills where the most damage is believed to be done. Defenders even in the age groups would have the ball booted high towards them and have to clear it as far down the pitch as possible repeatedly for 5-10 minutes in a row during a session. It’s not done that way these days.

Yeah I remember doing plenty of heading drills as a kid and obviously the heading drills were continued into the pro game etc.

The heading in training at junior level has been addressed now hasn't it. As per the table I posted above. There's more detailed info on that as well that every grass roots coach should have access to.

That doesn't stop d1ckhead coaches ignoring it like but as far as the FA are concerned, they've done their bit

 

[SilentProf]

This is well worth a watch for anyone who is interested.

 

[B_G]

Just received the email from the FA informing us that the No Heading rule up to U11 will he phased in nationally over the next 3 seasons. It will become mandatory.



Full statement on following link

New heading rules for youth football

New rule to be introduced to phase out heading in grassroots youth football matches

www.thefa.com

 

[B_G]

There's a bit of a contradiction in that email like. One paragraph says U12 level and below.

Other paragraphs state U7-U11.

 

[Nano]

I don't know the data on this but I assume it is out there somewhere:

Is there a difference in prevalence between footballers/non-footballers offset by a reduction in things like heart/respiratory conditions because they were athletes so fitter than the general population, had more regular health checks and weren't exposed to other industrial related things.

It has been said there is a difference between keepers and outfield players but is there a difference between wingers and centre backs? I.e. is there a correlation between the sort of positions that head the ball more frequently?

How do we know that it is caused by heading the ball and not just by playing fast moving sports? Athletes sprinting and changing directly quickly and regularly could be something that causes something. Is there any issue with other similarly active sports that don't have heading like Basketball at NBA level?

It makes sense to reduce the heading in youth football. The only issue is that they do get training to do it safely when they reach the right age because not being able to head the ball properly could be dangerous when it is introduced.