Coronavirus

I wasn't talking about stock markets and I don't think Cardiff was either to be fair mate.
That said in regards to shares you're totally right regarding the supply chain but also plenty of people making money on shorting the market as well as buying assets for pennies on the pound, it's been the way since its creation.

HolgateCorner said:
I don’t think the media have anything to do with the stock market crash. That’s been caused by over dependence on China in the supply chains.
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HolgateCorner said:
I don’t think the media have anything to do with the stock market crash. That’s been caused by over dependence on China in the supply chains.
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No that’s right. It’s people’s perceptions of what will happen to these businesses. We don’t yet know the full impact financially.
 
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this is from the Chinese news app look at this numbers I think to call it fake news is quite insulting to be honest.
 
zorro_mfc said:
What is fake about people die ing the threat is real people are die ing I’m not sure what you think the conspiracy is.
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Zorro I don’t think the word conspiracy was used. It’s how news is put together and presented.

Of course people are dying yes. Did you know how many people died of malnutrition in Africa today? Did the news mention it? No. It’s not on their agenda. They have agendas - it’s nothing to do with conspiracy.

This is not to play down corona but media for me particularly the television news is going all tabloid on us.
 
In 2019, an estimated 6.3 million children under five died, 2.9 million of them in the World Health Organisation African Region. This is equivalent to five children under 5 years of age dying every minute. Two thirds of these deaths can be attributed to preventable causes.

And why don't we not panic about this? Because it’s over there and not bothering us and affecting our stock markets? It’s a strange sense of perspective I sometimes get uncomfortable about. 1 British death so far. An elderly cruise liner traveller. Sad and concerning of course but in Britain this week 97 elderly people passed away as a result of influenza or pneumonia.
 
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That’s true and it’s shocking but last time checked malnutrition isn’t contagious 😷

the WHO is leading the story by the way so unless you think they are exaggerating it then.

the threat is real though unless you think they stop serie a matches etc for nothing then you don’t realise the scale of this.
 
Zoophonic: "This is not to play down corona but media for me particularly the television news is going all tabloid on us".

OR... they know it's serious??!

How many times that you can remember European cities (let alone Chinese ones) have been shut down because of a viral infection?!

I agree that there's very little any of us can do if it becomes a pandemic (except to observe 'best practice' health giudlines)... but there's not much value in writing reports off as 'b*ll*cks' currently, with zero evidence to back it up.
 
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Cuthbert said:
Zoophonic: "This is not to play down corona but media for me particularly the television news is going all tabloid on us".

OR... they know it's serious??!

How many times that you can remember European cities (let alone Chinese ones) have been shut down because of a viral infection?!

What's the upside to scoffing about it?

There's very little any of us can do if it becomes a pandemic (except to observe 'best practice' health giudlines)... but there's not much value in writing reports off as 'b*ll*cks' currently, with zero evidence to back it up.
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Cuthbert. Typical of some areas of our media you’ve read into comments, added 2 and 2 and made 5. Nowhere have I said the media are presenting fake stories. I think you’ve totally misunderstood the argument. in fact you appear to be getting irritated by people playing it down or making light of it. Like Rod Taylor in the Birds.

But you may be right when we all come down with it
 
Zoophonic - Apologies mate, 're misunderstanding..

You said "television news is going all tabloid on us".

I thought you meant they were getting all sensationalist. - Out of interest, what did you mean?

BTW - I totally hope the whole thing is made up b*llsh1t. I just don't see the sense or benefit in ASSUMING it is! LOL :)
 
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"in fact you appear to be getting irritated by people playing it down or making light of it"

LOL - you DO have a bit of a point there, to be fair... so I'll give it a rest. (y)

I am normally a massive cynic about stuff like this. I hate it when people 'are beside themselves' about one person dying, or a 'tragic' celebrity death.

The thing is, this SEEMS (judging by Gov't responses) different to me, and based on the facts/figures I guess I'm seeing less upside to being a naysayer (y)
 
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SmallTown said:
Although there are more cases in America. Hoping we don't get the same
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The cases in the US are mostly from people repatriated from overseas. And of those the majority are either recovering or already symptom free. They have at least one case that is community spread.

SARS was global, and there was one case in the UK. It was as serious in terms of mortality but evidently not as easily spread - but that could be just luck.

The report I heard said Covid-19 may reduce in the summer - as with normal colds and flu. Peak incidence of the flu is typically February. Research suggests that a combination of moderate warmth and humidity in summer means that mucus passes through our nose and mouth more quickly and the stomach destroys the virus. Also for some reason the viruses are more robust at cooler temperatures.

So if we can get through to May without a major epidemic the incidence should reduce, and no doubt by the time the autumn flu shot is prepared it will have a vaccine.
 
There is a hope that summer will help but it is an optimistic hope for an animal-human mutation. It's typical summer UK temperatures in Wuhan at the moment.

The nature the of the destructive influence of this virus to the lungs makes it look a minimum of a year for a useable vaccine and possibly there will never be one. Who wants a vaccine that produces antibodies that break down lung tissue?
 
Alvez_48 said:
I do think that the media are absolutely treating this appallingly ... Wall to wall coverage constantly barely a mention of facts.

They then have more coverage where they 'dispel' the rumours they have created!

It's not ideal and we will no doubt get some serious exposure to it. That said stopping events and travel etc seems more to be about governments flexing they're control muscles rather than reasoning
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The reasoning is it’s easily transmitted and the demand on the health services would be unprecedented if control measure were not put in place
 
bear66 said:
The nature the of the destructive influence of this virus to the lungs makes it look a minimum of a year for a useable vaccine and possibly there will never be one. Who wants a vaccine that produces antibodies that break down lung tissue?
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Never? Ah you see this is why I dislike the internet at times like this. You can google any number of sources that give conflicting information. In fact there's too much information. It varies from Vaccine ready in a month to 2 months to 6 months to a year to never. We just don't know who to believe really do we.

Whilst people are naturally consumed and alarmed by this virus and despite Cuthbert thinking I am denying it is a massive issue - of course it is a big problem and restricting movements or the prospective of lock downs in the UK will cause huge knock on effects for business and the economy. My philosophy is that I can't do anything about it and will just take advice from authorities and go about being upbeat, keep washing hands and brazen the storm out over the next few months, 6 months, year or however long people think this will last.
 
Funny. Just as I was talking about restriction of movement a banner ad that looks like a thread came up offering to transport my bike abroad.
 
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