Coronavirus good news thread

Although over 1k cases today, it's now 3 days in a row where the number is less than the corresponding day last week and the average has fallen.

Patients in hosptial continues to fall too, 545 in England.
 
borolad259 said:
Confirmation now that the Karolinska institute study has been peer reviewed and published that community immunity is much higher than indicated by antibody tests.

https://www.miragenews.com/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown/

Given that the data was gathered in May, it's certain that immunity in the community will have moved on apace since then, which would explain the sustained low numbers of new cases in Sweden. It should also be mirrored here ... with outbreaks being in local hotspots from here on, as opposed to the tsunami of infections that we saw in March/April.

It also bodes well for the future. Good news, as the article says, from a public health perspective.
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Hopefully this is good news but the paper is cautionary.
"Our collective dataset shows that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust, broad and highly functional memory T cell responses, suggesting that natural exposure or infection may prevent recurrent episodes of severe COVID-19."
 
bear66 said:
Hopefully this is good news but the paper is cautionary.
"Our collective dataset shows that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust, broad and highly functional memory T cell responses, suggesting that natural exposure or infection may prevent recurrent episodes of severe COVID-19."
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I think everyone is cautious with statements at the moment. It's a disease that is bamboozling some of the finest medical brains.
 
Worth taking a look at one of John Campbell's latest videos, which mentions the Karolinska study plus others. Even if the science goes over your head he discusses the 'headlines' at the beginning of the video so you don't need to stick around for it all.

In vivo studies now confirming early in vitro work and what some scientist have been saying from very early on (to be fair to them).

 
I hope those that have been acutely anxious about Sars Cov 2 watch that video and can find some comfort. The bottom line is that we are most likely over the worst in this country and that, globally, the threat of Sars Cov 2 will eventually diminish to the point where it is no longer considered a serious threat ... and, long term, those that are most vulnerable to serious outcomes will be able to get protection from any vaccines that are successfully delivered.
The world will return back to normal ... and probably much more quickly than any of us had hoped.

Keep your vit D levels up this autumn and winter (instrumental in T cell function and inflammatory response).
 
On August 5th there were just 21 hospital admissions in the UK for Covid 19. This from the peak at the end of March of 3099.

Despite more cases being diagnosed (in community testing) ... as many as 1000 in a day this week, it seems that fewer of those are requiring hospital treatment.

In other good news, ICU recoveries were up to 80% in July as doctors have found better ways to treat the seriously ill.
 
borolad259 said:
On August 5th there were just 21 hospital admissions in the UK for Covid 19. This from the peak at the end of March of 3099.

Despite more cases being diagnosed (in community testing) ... as many as 1000 in a day this week, it seems that fewer of those are requiring hospital treatment.

In other good news, ICU recoveries were up to 80% in July as doctors have found better ways to treat the seriously ill.
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There were 138 admissions to hospital in the UK on 5 August. The Welsh figures are high as they include suspected cases as well.
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T_A_D said:
Worth taking a look at one of John Campbell's latest videos, which mentions the Karolinska study plus others. Even if the science goes over your head he discusses the 'headlines' at the beginning of the video so you don't need to stick around for it all.

In vivo studies now confirming early in vitro work and what some scientist have been saying from very early on (to be fair to them).

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Thanks for sharing that. Extremely encouraging and he delivers it in a way that a dummy like me can understand. I think he brilliant 👍
 
borolad259 said:
That's the daily mail for ya. Still all encouraging.
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I think the issue is that the figure for the last English day quoted is low as they're waiting for the test results before confirming numbers. So, on 16 August there were 15 'admissions' in England but 39 over previous days. The '15' will increase but admissions are about 20% lower and 10 days ago
 
This is actually a bit of a "bad news/good news" story.

A recently published paper in Cell shows that high levels of some cytokines seen in COVID-19 patients, as part of a cytokine storm, may prevent the development of germinal centers, which are a key component in the production of the memory cells essential for long-term immunity to disease.

The bad news - according to this study, this could mean:
there is unlikely to be long-term memory to this virus developing from natural infections, meaning that while antibodies may protect people for a relatively short time, a single person who recovers from the disease could get infected again, perhaps six months later, or even multiple times with SARS-CoV-2. This suggests that developing herd immunity [via natural infection] may be difficult.
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The good news - firstly this would only apply to people who become severely ill with the disease and secondly:
This finding would likely not affect vaccine-induced immunity, as vaccines do not induce cytokine storms. A vaccine-induced immune response would likely include the development of a germinal center, and the ensuing creation and immortalization of high-quality antibodies that would provide long-lasting protection against COVID-19.
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CoVid-19 cytokine storms may prevent a durable immune response
 
As you say though, this is not necessarily all bad news. As stated in the Washington Post article on this:
The fact that the man had no symptoms the second time suggests his immune system protected him from disease, although it did not stop the reinfection.

“This is a textbook example of how immunity should work,” Akiko Iwasaki, an immunology expert at Yale University, tweeted on Monday, referring to the man’s lack of symptoms.
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Debated whether to post this or not, as there are a lot of question surrounding it, but thought it was interesting nevertheless. Basically suggesting that herd immunity may be reached much earlier than 60-70% infection numbers, perhaps even as low as 20%, due to the nature of the virus spread being a live outbreak that is happening now (rather than with something like the measles).

If it proves to be true though, it would have to be seen as good news -

https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/drop-in-brazilian-coronavirus-cases-prompts-herd-immunity-questions/
 
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