Coronavirus good news thread

Antibody study gives 'clearest insight yet' into number of people who've had COVID-19 in England

Don't know why this news is not headlines on BBC:

A major testing programme, led by Imperial College London, found that just under 6% of England's population - an estimated 3.4 million people - had antibodies to COVID-19 and were likely to have previously had the virus prior to the end of June.

This is more than 12 times the number of cases shown by the government's official figures, which state a total of 270,971 people in England had a positive coronavirus test confirmed by a laboratory as of 4pm on Wednesday.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...had-covid-19-antibody-study-suggests-12048413
 
bigbob said:
Antibody study gives 'clearest insight yet' into number of people who've had COVID-19 in England

Don't know why this news is not headlines on BBC:

A major testing programme, led by Imperial College London, found that just under 6% of England's population - an estimated 3.4 million people - had antibodies to COVID-19 and were likely to have previously had the virus prior to the end of June.

This is more than 12 times the number of cases shown by the government's official figures, which state a total of 270,971 people in England had a positive coronavirus test confirmed by a laboratory as of 4pm on Wednesday.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...had-covid-19-antibody-study-suggests-12048413
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that really is good news, especially if t-cell stuff is right as well it’s likely to be even higher number of people who’ve had it
 
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bigbob said:
Antibody study gives 'clearest insight yet' into number of people who've had COVID-19 in England

Don't know why this news is not headlines on BBC:

A major testing programme, led by Imperial College London, found that just under 6% of England's population - an estimated 3.4 million people - had antibodies to COVID-19 and were likely to have previously had the virus prior to the end of June.

This is more than 12 times the number of cases shown by the government's official figures, which state a total of 270,971 people in England had a positive coronavirus test confirmed by a laboratory as of 4pm on Wednesday.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...had-covid-19-antibody-study-suggests-12048413
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Doesn’t this also put the death rate down by a considerable amount?
 
Yes it does:

The overall infection fatality ratio - the proportion of infected people who died - was calculated to be 0.9%, similar to other countries such as Spain.

Think it was previously reported to be above 4% in the UK
 
And this value will continue to decrease as the vast majority of new cases are in younger people who will not normally die from the disease.
 
What has been observable in countries that have widespread infection (ie. not one single case of someone having it twice) is now being confirmed by immunologists.
We should have a normal, long term immune response to Sars Cov 2.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/world/coronavirus-covid-19.html#link-2f7e6633

This means that, even if you do catch it in future years, it will most likely be a mild or asymptomatic illness.
 
borolad259 said:
What has been observable in countries that have widespread infection (ie. not one single case of someone having it twice) is now being confirmed by immunologists.
We should have a normal, long term immune response to Sars Cov 2.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/world/coronavirus-covid-19.html#link-2f7e6633

This means that, even if you do catch it in future years, it will most likely be a mild or asymptomatic illness.
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A quick Google comes up with lots of instances of people who have been infected twice, although 'a lot' is a small number in 10s of millions. Also, we'll have no idea if a previously asymptomatic person has got it a second time.
 
bear66 said:
A quick Google comes up with lots of instances of people who have been infected twice, although 'a lot' is a small number in 10s of millions. Also, we'll have no idea if a previously asymptomatic person has got it a second time.
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the infected twice people can’t be certain that the dead virus isn’t still breaking up in the body. It seems to linger for a good while. What is the longest between two positive tests? There really should be cases of 6 months apart now.

When giving plasma last week they mentioned research into B and T cells. Primarily looking at antibodies first though.
 
bear66 said:
A quick Google comes up with lots of instances of people who have been infected twice, although 'a lot' is a small number in 10s of millions. Also, we'll have no idea if a previously asymptomatic person has got it a second time.
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As far as I know, there is not a single instance that hasn't turned out to be the result of a false negative/all clear.
 
borolad259 said:
As far as I know, there is not a single instance that hasn't turned out to be the result of a false negative/all clear.
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Some anecdotal examples cited here but I agree they are few and far between. It would be virtually impossible to know if non-tested asymptomatic people catch it again later. As these could be 70% of cases that's a big unknown.
 
bear66 said:
Some anecdotal examples cited here but I agree they are few and far between. It would be virtually impossible to know if non-tested asymptomatic people catch it again later. As these could be 70% of cases that's a big unknown.
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It's also relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things, although all evidence suggests that asymptomatic cases exist because those people have a high level of existing immunological response in the first place, and that T cell immunity has been shown to last a long time, so it seems unlikely.

I was reading some epidemiologist recently who stated that there has so far been no confirmed re-infection, and that the anecdotal ones have not been proven.
 
Well the NHS have contacted me about my plasma donation. My antibodies are still strong 5 months after my first symptoms. That can only be a good sign. Probably explains why I didn’t catch it again when in close contact to another guy Sat next to me in the car on the journey to work. 2 weeks spending 1.5 hours a day in close proximity.

I’ll donate another batch before heading back to Egypt.
 
Confirmation now that the Karolinska institute study has been peer reviewed and published that community immunity is much higher than indicated by antibody tests.

https://www.miragenews.com/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown/

Given that the data was gathered in May, it's certain that immunity in the community will have moved on apace since then, which would explain the sustained low numbers of new cases in Sweden. It should also be mirrored here ... with outbreaks being in local hotspots from here on, as opposed to the tsunami of infections that we saw in March/April.

It also bodes well for the future. Good news, as the article says, from a public health perspective.
 
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