Corbyn won't be a Labour candidate at General Election

[HolgateCorner]

it's literally all been documented multiple times haha. Read the leaked report. Watch the Labour Files.

I only read the papers and watch the news, I’m not an activist.

I‘m simply giving my opinion.

Labour (or Tory) divisions and infighting are nothing unusual, don’t you think the average voter accepts that?

 

[bumface]

Or Jess Phillips jubilation in 2019.

The only good thing about Starmer is that he isn't Jess Phillips. Things could always be worse.

 

[SuperStu]

I only read the papers and watch the news, I’m not an activist.

An activist? The Labour Files was a documentary on the telly.

I‘m simply giving my opinion.

Fine. But it's a bit like getting someones opinion on the match last night who didn't watch it in that case.

Labour (or Tory) divisions and infighting are nothing unusual, don’t you think the average voter accepts that?

Divisions and infighting doesn't accurately describe what was going on 2015-2019. The right wing factions in the party were hiding funds, throwing out office equipment, deliberately stopping complaints being processed.

 

[bumface]

An activist? The Labour Files was a documentary on the telly.



Fine. But it's a bit like getting someones opinion on the match last night who didn't watch it in that case.



Divisions and infighting doesn't accurately describe what was going on 2015-2019. The right wing factions in the party were hiding funds, throwing out office equipment, deliberately stopping complaints being processed.

I'm amazed that we've got this far on this thread without anyone accusing us of being 'the hard left'. I like being accused of being the hard left. It's really good fun.

 

[HolgateCorner]

I'm amazed that we've got this far on this thread without anyone accussing us of being 'the hard left'. I like being accused of being the hard left. It's really good fun.

I’m not bothered how left you are, I’m very left wing myself, but I do think we all have to live in the real world if we are going to get rid of the Tories.

Despite all that has gone on, they will fight the next election on an anti woke agenda and it will resonate with their natural vote and it is by no means certain that Labour will win.

 

[HolgateCorner]

An activist? The Labour Files was a documentary on the telly.



Fine. But it's a bit like getting someones opinion on the match last night who didn't watch it in that case.



Divisions and infighting doesn't accurately describe what was going on 2015-2019. The right wing factions in the party were hiding funds, throwing out office equipment, deliberately stopping complaints being processed.

I think you have missed the point.

I voted for Corbyn twice, none of that stuff made any difference to me.

 

[Ziggy]

The Tories have held power for 70+ of the last 100 years. Add in the way, for some reason it’s seems that it takes fewer votes to elect a Tory than other candidate, the way constituency boundaries are formed and gerrymandered to fix pocket density, which by the way the government are in the process of refining even further in this Parliament.
Then there’s a blatant programme of de-enfranchising the ability of sections of voters in the pipeline.
The overall madness and weighted electoral system of voting, shared only in Europe, by Belarus. Then the word Democracy shouldn’t be used in any context in this current discussion.

 

[SuperStu]

I think you have missed the point.

I voted for Corbyn twice, none of that stuff made any difference to me.

Ah right. Well as long as you voted for him all the sabotage that went on mustn't have had any effect. It's a wonder they bothered doing it.

 

[HolgateCorner]

Ah right. Well as long as you voted for him all the sabotage that went on mustn't have had any effect. It's a wonder they bothered doing it.

I’m not saying division helps but look how divided the Tories have been for many years, they still get in, most punters just do not know or care about a lot of what goes on within political parties in my opinion. I could be wrong but I’m just giving my personal view. The normal 70 year old voter cares more about things like the triple lock or the level of immigration than anything else.

 

[r00fie1]

The issue now is that the Labour Party is an even bigger obstacle to change than even the Tory Party.
Outside - today, and tomorrow and next week - millions of ordinary people are on the streets, on strike, walking out and saying enough is enough.
Kids are going hungry and the inability to put a meal on the table and heat their homes is literally killing people.
Meanwhile, Centrica, Shell and the rest - are screwing the biggest profits in their histories.
The issue now, is not the Labour Party, but harnessing the current organisation of millions of public sector workers, the elderly, the young, the vulnerable and the disabled.
What we are seeing is a general freeze-out of strike reporting in the media, other than to attack workers and union leaders.
The Nurses particularly were getting too much support and the lid has been put on it in the media.
We cannot rely on the oligarch media - including all TV channels - to give an honest portrayal of what is going on in our country right now.
Starmer is the establishments man.
The Labour Party to the establishment means: "Your interests are in safe hands."

 

[Ziggy]

Starmer is the establishments man.
The Labour Party to the establishment means: "Your interests are in safe hands.

Absolutely this. That’s the the way it works.

 

[TeessideCleveland]

I'm amazed that we've got this far on this thread without anyone accussing us of being 'the hard left'. I like being accused of being the hard left. It's really good fun.

You always have to bring sex into it
Most people aren't bothered if you're hard or not.....

 

[r00fie1]

Absolutely this. That’s the the way it works.

The Labour Party has never been a Socialist Party. It has always been a Party with Socialists in it.
Some one once described the Labour Party as the iron fist of capitalism in a velvet glove.
Deck-chairs on the Titanic springs to mind.

 

[bumface]

You always have to bring sex into it
Most people aren't bothered if you're hard or not.....

Well, you clearly are. Why else would you reply?

 

[1finny]

I will vote Labour at elections, but Why oh why when the Tory Thugees are about to lose the next election by a landslide, do the Labour party have to split in two and maybe allow the criminals a chance?????

Maybe they are driven by dogma

Exactly. He doesn't have any beliefs or principles. He has a team of people who tell him what he's supposed to pretend to believe in at any given time. He's a lying sack of sh*t.

just listen to yourself
Everyone has beliefs and or principles.
Corbin lied
Everyone lies
Politicians lie to get elected

I get it - you don’t like him.
Just stop making stuff up to justify it.

Go off and find your non lying, super principled politician to vote for. You know, the one that doesn’t exist.
Meanwhile - keep the Tories in power.

Enjoy

 

[bumface]

Maybe they are driven by dogma

just listen to yourself
Everyone has beliefs and or principles.
Corbin lied
Everyone lies
Politicians lie to get elected

I get it - you don’t like him.
Just stop making stuff up to justify it.

Go off and find your non lying, super principled politician to vote for. You know, the one that doesn’t exist.
Meanwhile - keep the Tories in power.

Enjoy

I do listen to myself. I know that I'm right, and I know that you're wrong.

 

[slick]

Should be room in Labour for Corbyn a good percentage of people in the party support him as do a lot of voters,by forcibly ousting him Starmer just exposes his own intolerance,get ready for some draconian laws on free speech when hes PM.Lets face it the establishment have been grappling with a way to shut the internet up for years now,looks like they have found thier man.

 

[zzzzz]

What did he do?

Failed in two General Elections (one being the worst performance since 1935)
Failed in local elections
Failed at European Elections
Instrumental in us leaving the the EU
Gave us another term of the worst Toryism in a generation
Ostracisied socialism fo another generation
Labelled the Labour Party with anti-semitism

A shambles. If this man is the face of UK socialism no wonder it is DEAD.

 

[Laughing]

There has been some absolute b***ks posted on this thread.

Vote for whomever you please but if you waste a vote and the tories get back in you are as culpable as those who vote for them.

People are going hungry, dying for the want of an ambulance or early intervention and some people are complaining because Corbyn won't be allowed to stand for labour in the next election. You may feel that is important. I can promise you a wife sat at her dying husbands side for an hour waiting for an ambulance, doesn't care whether Corbyn represent Labour or not.

Priorities folks.

 

[slick]

There has been some absolute b***ks posted on this thread.

Vote for whomever you please but if you waste a vote and the tories get back in you are as culpable as those who vote for them.

People are going hungry, dying for the want of an ambulance or early intervention and some people are complaining because Corbyn won't be allowed to stand for labour in the next election. You may feel that is important. I can promise you a wife sat at her dying husbands side for an hour waiting for an ambulance, doesn't care whether Corbyn represent Labour or not.

Priorities folks.

I dont think you appreciate just where the country is financially,owing 2,4 trillion out means that the interest liability over the next 6 years is over £500 billion,some very fundamental decisions will have to be made,and thier wont be any extra spending anywhere without severe cuts elsewhere.