MolteniArcore
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Is that your assertion or someone else's? Do you have a link?
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Is that your assertion or someone else's? Do you have a link?
bear66
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A source quoting 54,453 excess deaths up until 9 October 2020 here
"Between Weeks 1 and 12, 138,916 deaths were registered, which was 4,822 fewer than the five-year average for these weeks. However, between Weeks 13 and 41, 334,786 deaths were registered, which was 59,275 more than the five-year average."
the_smog_chorus
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ForssAwakens
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I could have made that, where’s the evidence of prior immunity
the_smog_chorus
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It was made by the guy that is in the podcast at the beginning of this thread - you need to listen to it.
Randy
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Where's the source for this graph please?
bear66
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That isn't evidence. I agree the terminology of 'susceptible' was stupid in the first column as by definition we have no scientific evidence to know how to predict likelyhood. But the second column is complete nonsense.
The worst hit region in the world in March / April, Lombardy, is currently experiencing the highest infection rate in Italy.
Link
MolteniArcore
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Hahaha this is great - he's just plucked these figures out of the air and made some graphs and folk lap it up.
And on Chart 1 how does it continue indefinitely? At some point everyone will be either dead or immune then it will stop!!
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MolteniArcore
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This comment sums up how we should take this information - it was made by the podcast guy.
I'm ok thanks podcast guy, I'll use the official figures cheers
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the_smog_chorus
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The podcast guy is Dr Yeadon - do some research. to quote him -
It’s my very carefully considered opinion that THE PANDEMIC IS OVER. Without seeming immodest, I doubt there is anyone else in U.K. who has studied the pandemic more closely & has all the knowledge, experience & judgement I have in all aspects relating to this ghastly episode.
If you think his points are not valid then go over to twitter and debate with him, he doesn't resort to insulting people who do.
1finny
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I’ve got no way of being able to make that kind of assertion with any kind of authority.
That’s what Yeadon said in the video - claiming it is taught in 1st year immunology at Uni? Also said Valance et al know this
MolteniArcore
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Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you - it's just getting a bit odd on here. We have people quoting a guy who is adamant the pandemic is over and holding him up as some kind of beacon of truth. I'm lost for words.
bear66
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1finny
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‘The Podcast Guy’ - that’s just not the right way to help the conversation here.
He knows some stuff. I’ll happily listen to him and will happily listen to to someone else who provides contra evidence.
ForssAwakens
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I don’t have 108 mins to listen to, if you kindly point out the evidence to back up the graph I’ll make a point of going to the designated bits around it
MolteniArcore
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Finny, just look what you are saying. Basically some guy on Youtube says it and says that SAGE know it. No peer reviewed evidence, and there would be if he learned this in Year 1 at Uni.
There is a reason this guy isn't getting the airtime, he's a wacko. They have them in every pandemic according to a video I saw:
ForssAwakens
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Now I know I don’t need to listen to it
‘the pandemic is over’ people on the frontline decline that view with physical evidence.
1finny
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Where do you get the ‘beacon of truth’ from?
I don’t see one person on this discussion who has said that.
In fact the OP was all about - this is controversial, what do you think?
There is no right or wrong here - there can’t be.
All we can do is learn as we go along and try to look for clues.
One certainty is - we will know in a week or 2 if Yeadon et al are right. If they are not we can all move on.
MolteniArcore
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"He knows some stuff"
Bear & Statto have provided you with enough to show that this guy is talking out of his Harris. But like I said earlier, it's like leave and remain, it doesn't matter what's said, people have made their minds up and they aren't for changing.