Compulsory Army Service

Conversations like this always put me in mind of the national treasure Roger McGough's great poem, Icarus Allsorts ...

‘A meteorite is reported to have landed
in New England. No damage is said…’


A littlebit of heaven fell
From out the sky one day
It landed in the ocean
Not so very far away
The General at the radar screen
Rubbed his hands with glee
And grinning pressed the button
That started World War Three

From every corner of the earth
Bombs began to fly
There were even missile jams
No traffic lights in the sky
In the time it takes to blow your nose
The people fell, the mushrooms rose

‘House!’ cried the fatlady
As the bingohall moved to various parts
of the town

‘Raus!’ cried the German butcher
as his shop came tumbling down

Phillip was in the countinghouse
Counting out his money
The Queen was in the parlour
Eating bread and honey
When through the window
Flew a bomb
And made them go all funny

In the time it takes to draw a breath
Or eat a toadstool, instant death.

The rich
Huddled outside the doors of their fallout shelters
Like drunken carolsingers

The poor
Clutching shattered televisions
And last week’s edition of T.V. Times
(but the very last)

Civil defence volunteers
With their tin hats in one hand
And their heads in the other

CND supporters
Their ban the bomb badges beginning to rust
Have scrawled ‘I told you so’ in the dust.

A littlebit of heaven fell
From out the sky one day
It landed in Vermont
North-Eastern U.S.A.
The general at the radar screen
He should have got the sack
But that wouldn’t bring
Three thousand million, seven hundred
and sixty-eight people back
Would it?
 
I've got a few “bits and pieces” in boxes, which I`de be happy to donate.
They might require a pull-through, some Blanco, and Brasso.
There are a few packets of Biscuits Brown and an old NBC suit in the shed if anyone needs it ;)(y)
 
Give all those rrzoles in Westminster and their supporters one of these ⬇️, with an NBC suit and a sachet of “Orange powder”........then order a taxi to RAF Mildenhall and strap Tobias Feckwhit to the first missile.
In fact, shove the missile up his jumper and forget the strapping!
Clowns(n):mad:

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Alot of political views coming over here. I questioned why it ended and appears it stopped due to time/money.
I am 35, no military experience nor wish to have any. If WW3 started tomorrow and there was a voluntary service i wouldn't be first to the queue I'm just wondering if it COULD return in some form as mentioned above perhaps as a way to just ground 16-18year olds to get them out in the world they're about to begin their life/career in. Not necessarily military related but something whereby you must commit and complete 6 months of something such as voluntary work, community service etc unless you have college/uni/employment opportunities.

It was mentioned above somewhere regarding people on benefits, why can't these fit for work unemployed people be tasked with something similiar volunteer work, litter picking, painting fences type 'work' which entitles them to their weekly benefit? Case by case basis obviously. I was out of work when i was younger for about 6 months, and if i had to do something like this to qualify i would have - i bet the numbers of people claiming would significantly drop if they actually had to do something for their claim.
You talk utter crap if you think people really want to live off the meagre benefits that the country bestows on them. Humiliating them and belittling them in the process.
If there is litter picking, painting fences type of work, why not pay someone at least the minimum wage for doing so.
 
Ellwood is a foooking idiot with a large empty space where his brain should be.
I think he was the one who suggested a Norway plus style resolution to brexit.. I remember it being quite well received at the time as a moderate solution. The eton boys club were chomping at the bit for some chaos.. short selling and a smash and grab for their pals. Would it have been a good idea? Strong and stable sort of a deal? Who knows? Should he have been better than Boris or Truss or Sunak? Maybe..
 
Alot of political views coming over here. I questioned why it ended and appears it stopped due to time/money.
I am 35, no military experience nor wish to have any. If WW3 started tomorrow and there was a voluntary service i wouldn't be first to the queue I'm just wondering if it COULD return in some form as mentioned above perhaps as a way to just ground 16-18year olds to get them out in the world they're about to begin their life/career in. Not necessarily military related but something whereby you must commit and complete 6 months of something such as voluntary work, community service etc unless you have college/uni/employment opportunities.

It was mentioned above somewhere regarding people on benefits, why can't these fit for work unemployed people be tasked with something similiar volunteer work, litter picking, painting fences type 'work' which entitles them to their weekly benefit? Case by case basis obviously. I was out of work when i was younger for about 6 months, and if i had to do something like this to qualify i would have - i bet the numbers of people claiming would significantly drop if they actually had to do something for their claim.
Completely agree 👍
 
South Korea have national service of between 18 and 21 months for all males aged between 18 and 35 years of age.

However they also have a lunatic dictator on their doorstep ready to declare war at the drop of a hat.
 
All this talk has guaranteed one thing. Twitter is full of idiots believing Britain is some type of military superpower. People making comments that the Americans can’t fight and need Britain more than the other way round.
 
I think he was the one who suggested a Norway plus style resolution to brexit.. I remember it being quite well received at the time as a moderate solution. The eton boys club were chomping at the bit for some chaos.. short selling and a smash and grab for their pals. Would it have been a good idea? Strong and stable sort of a deal? Who knows? Should he have been better than Boris or Truss or Sunak? Maybe..
100% it would have been better.
 
It was mentioned above somewhere regarding people on benefits, why can't these fit for work unemployed people be tasked with something similiar volunteer work, litter picking, painting fences type 'work' which entitles them to their weekly benefit?

Rather than reintroducing Victorian workhouse type 'employment opportunities', why not tax billionaires, huge international businesses and oil & gas giants enough so that local authorities are sufficiently funded by central government? They could then pay a living wage, with pension benefits etc for these people to care for our area.
 
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Completely agree 👍
That doesn't stop it being a stupid idea.

If the idea is for compulsory national service at a certain age; there are around 50% more teenagers per year than we have full time armed service personnel currently who would need to carry out their own duties.

If you're going to actually train them and not just pretend to, it will cost around £8 billion just to train each year group, never mind the cost of taking existing troops out of their own duties and provide them with new equipment that they can train with.

You already have a situation where soldiers are living in accommodation that is so poor that they don't have to pay rent on it; it's that bad. Where are these 200K + people being housed and who is paying for it?

Even if you don't make everyone carry out military service you are taking a huge chunk of people out of society and what they currently do. Wait until the backlash from the only teenagers you see around being foreign born or wealthy dual nationals while their British counterparts are away doing their service.

You also need to decide how you recruit actual service personnel of that age and how you differentiate between them and these people on national service.
 
That doesn't stop it being a stupid idea.

If the idea is for compulsory national service at a certain age; there are around 50% more teenagers per year than we have full time armed service personnel currently who would need to carry out their own duties.

If you're going to actually train them and not just pretend to, it will cost around £8 billion just to train each year group, never mind the cost of taking existing troops out of their own duties and provide them with new equipment that they can train with.

You already have a situation where soldiers are living in accommodation that is so poor that they don't have to pay rent on it; it's that bad. Where are these 200K + people being housed and who is paying for it?

Even if you don't make everyone carry out military service you are taking a huge chunk of people out of society and what they currently do. Wait until the backlash from the only teenagers you see around being foreign born or wealthy dual nationals while their British counterparts are away doing their service.

You also need to decide how you recruit actual service personnel of that age and how you differentiate between them and these people on national service.
This above.
Thoroughly explained as to why it wont even be considered.
 
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