Christmas lockdown NOT ruled out

I can't believe people are still talking about lockdown, sounds like some of you would actually like it. Can I ask what would be the point of said lockdown? Given that all it does is delay the inevitable?
 
We eased lockdown restrictions too soon IMO. Employers desperate to get staff back into empty offices, Train and bus company profits down and the pressure from retail in town centres was always going to cause a domino effect down the line.
 
thewanderer said:
I can't believe people are still talking about lockdown, sounds like some of you would actually like it. Can I ask what would be the point of said lockdown? Given that all it does is delay the inevitable?
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I don't want another lockdown; the last one, in conjunction with Brexit, cost me my old job. However, it's fairly obvious that there's a point where the health service could be overwhelmed by demand from any upsurge in serious cases and they'd have to lock down.

Hopefully it doesn't happen as I'd probably be out of work again, but I don't think you could rule it out.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
I don't want another lockdown; the last one, in conjunction with Brexit, cost me my old job. However, it's fairly obvious that there's a point where the health service could be overwhelmed by demand from any upsurge in serious cases and they'd have to lock down.

Hopefully it doesn't happen as I'd probably be out of work again, but I don't think you could rule it out.
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Lockdowns are much tougher on some than others. I hope it doesn't effect you, if it were to come to that.

Lockdowns with 85% vaccination coverage do seem to be an admission that the vaccine isn't the way out of this alone, and other measures perhaps have to be used in conjunction. masks and social distancing is fairly harmless and may help enough.

I do know that AndyW who follows the numbers much closer than I do thinks there is a very real chance that we are about to or already have hit herd immunity threshold so the cases may not rise very much more. Let's hope that this is the case.
 
thewanderer said:
I can't believe people are still talking about lockdown, sounds like some of you would actually like it. Can I ask what would be the point of said lockdown? Given that all it does is delay the inevitable?
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No one would like it. Some of us are smart enough to see when it may be necessary. Thays the only difference
 
What the actual eff are you on about?? Cases have been coming down for 7 weeks now, why would there be any need for a lockdown??
I think Wanderer may have a point here.
 
magic said:
What the actual eff are you on about?? Cases have been coming down for 7 weeks now, why would there be any need for a lockdown??
I think Wanderer may have a point here.
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Have they? No wanderer doesn’t have a point at all. He jsit doesn’t comprehend why lockdowns are used. Or at least appears not to
 
SmallTown said:
Have they? No wanderer doesn’t have a point at all. He jsit doesn’t comprehend why lockdowns are used. Or at least appears not to
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England has recorded its longest unbroken run of declining daily coronavirus caseloads since February, as Covid-19-related hospital admissions begin to fall in every region of the country, according to an FT analysis of official data. The number of new daily cases reported in England has been lower than a week earlier for 18 successive days, the longest sequence of week-on-week declines since February when the tight lockdown restrictions contributed to a decline for 42 days in a row. The reduced case rates have also begun to feed through into lower weekly hospital admissions, which fell 12 per cent to 5,378 hospitalisations in the seven days to November 8. On Wednesday, 31,541 new cases were reported across England, down about 8 per cent on the same day last week. But cases remain above the level of early August when they fell to below 20,000 a day — the lowest daily caseload recorded since most legal limits on social contact were lifted in late July. Separate data from the Office for National Statistics, published on Wednesday, showed a rebound in antibody levels in the over-80s to 92 per cent — after falling by six percentage points to 88 per cent between June and October — reflecting the impact of the booster campaign.

Yes they have, shouldn't you be happy about that??
You do realise people on here are really struggling with this and the last thing they need is the constant fear mongering and negativity coming from certain posters on here.
 
thewanderer said:
I can't believe people are still talking about lockdown, sounds like some of you would actually like it. Can I ask what would be the point of said lockdown? Given that all it does is delay the inevitable?
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Delay the inevitable or push the peak to a time where the NHS isnt already at its limit?
 
JM14 said:
Delay the inevitable or push the peak to a time where the NHS isnt already at its limit?
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I think people are suggesting that we have passed our peak. A few scientists support this view so it's mainstream. I am not so sure but keeping my fingers crossed that boosters and the small increments in general vaccination keep us open and protect the nhs.
 
magic said:
England has recorded its longest unbroken run of declining daily coronavirus caseloads since February, as Covid-19-related hospital admissions begin to fall in every region of the country, according to an FT analysis of official data. The number of new daily cases reported in England has been lower than a week earlier for 18 successive days, the longest sequence of week-on-week declines since February when the tight lockdown restrictions contributed to a decline for 42 days in a row. The reduced case rates have also begun to feed through into lower weekly hospital admissions, which fell 12 per cent to 5,378 hospitalisations in the seven days to November 8. On Wednesday, 31,541 new cases were reported across England, down about 8 per cent on the same day last week. But cases remain above the level of early August when they fell to below 20,000 a day — the lowest daily caseload recorded since most legal limits on social contact were lifted in late July. Separate data from the Office for National Statistics, published on Wednesday, showed a rebound in antibody levels in the over-80s to 92 per cent — after falling by six percentage points to 88 per cent between June and October — reflecting the impact of the booster campaign.

Yes they have, shouldn't you be happy about that??
You do realise people on here are really struggling with this and the last thing they need is the constant fear mongering and negativity coming from certain posters on here.
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Apart from the fact it’s risen for the past week then?
 
JM14 said:
Delay the inevitable or push the peak to a time where the NHS isnt already at its limit?
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Which month is that then? Bearing in mind they are woefully under funded, managed by idiots, and have no staff.
 
Randy said:
Which month is that then? Bearing in mind they are woefully under funded, managed by idiots, and have no staff.
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I wasn't referring to any specific timeframe, just pointing out that lockdowns aren't delaying the inevitable
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
I don't want another lockdown; the last one, in conjunction with Brexit, cost me my old job. However, it's fairly obvious that there's a point where the health service could be overwhelmed by demand from any upsurge in serious cases and they'd have to lock down.

Hopefully it doesn't happen as I'd probably be out of work again, but I don't think you could rule it out.
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That's the sad part of this situation, people lose their jobs [like unravel] and their livelihood with no chance [in many cases[ of moving elsewhere or recovering from the layoff [caused by the lockdown]. I'm in the "end the lockdown" group even though we know that there's going to be people who don't agree, or even hate you for giving such an opinion. As an added footnote, Gibraltar has already gone to the extremes of banning everything for the festive period -- this when they are [according to official data] the most vaccinated country on the planet and have mask mandates in place-- makes you wonder about the vaccine, or whether or not anything will work.
 
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