Championship top scorers 21-22 - Realistic Striker Targets?

boringblock_21 said:
- Joel Piroe (22 goals)
- Andreas Weimann (22 goals - not a strict striker but forward)
- Karlan Grant (18 goals)
- Elijah Adebayo (16 goals)
- Emil Riis (16 goals)
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Piroe had a superb season and is young, would be a great signing but I can't see Swansea selling.

Weimann, nah first time in his career that he has scored more than 10 goals and he's 30.
Grant - West BRom won't sell to a rival, he's ad a decent return but was wasteful too
Adebayo - great season as a big fish in a little pond, not sure he will replicate it elsewhere
Riis - he's a handful, probably the poundland Gyokeres though
 
Soutra said:
The highest scoring teams are always the teams that are promoted. Clean sheets help a bit, but nowhere near as much as a couple of guys banging in 20+ goals.
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is that true?

21-22:
Fulham - Mitrovich 43 - YES
Bournemouth - Solanke 29 YES
Forest - Johnson 16 NO

none of those teams had a couple of strikers getting 20+ goals. Forests top CF had 12 goals.

20-21:
Norwich - Pukki 26 YES
Watford - Sarr 13 NO
Brentford - Toney 31 YES

Norwich had Buendia on 15, the other two didn't have another forward in double figures


19-20:
Leeds - Bamford 16 NO
West Brom - Austin 10, Robson-Kanu 10 NO
Fulham - Mitrovic 26 YES

Fulhams second top was 8, Leeds was 9


So 4 of the last 9 promoted sides did not have a 20+ striker None of them had a couple of 20+ strikers. It's fundamentally incorrect to claim you need 20+ strikers for promotion, it's even possible to get promoted with 10 goal strikers.
 
BoroMart said:
is that true?

21-22:
Fulham - Mitrovich 43 - YES
Bournemouth - Solanke 29 YES
Forest - Johnson 16 NO

none of those teams had a couple of strikers getting 20+ goals. Forests top CF had 12 goals.

20-21:
Norwich - Pukki 26 YES
Watford - Sarr 13 NO
Brentford - Toney 31 YES

Norwich had Buendia on 15, the other two didn't have another forward in double figures


19-20:
Leeds - Bamford 16 NO
West Brom - Austin 10, Robson-Kanu 10 NO
Fulham - Mitrovic 26 YES

Fulhams second top was 8, Leeds was 9


So 4 of the last 9 promoted sides did not have a 20+ striker None of them had a couple of 20+ strikers. It's fundamentally incorrect to claim you need 20+ strikers for promotion, it's even possible to get promoted with 10 goal strikers.
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why? I've just proven the original statement wrong, or at least vastly overstated, I would think qualifying and quantifying the alternative to the original point would be smart, but maybe you're right and data, information, knowledge and wisdom are signs of stupidity?! 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
 
BoroMart said:
why? I've just proven the original statement wrong, or at least vastly overstated, I would think qualifying and quantifying the alternative to the original point would be smart, but maybe you're right and data, information, knowledge and wisdom are signs of stupidity?! 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
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Err it was a Yes/No joke Marty...I should have signed off with a 🤣
 
BoroMart said:
I'd take the first 2. I like Hugill, but been there, done that. As a freebee on cheap wages I'd take him as a squadman, but nothing more than that. Joao, Semenyo and Gyokeres would transform our squad
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I think our squad will be transformed regardless of who comes in just with the sheer numbers..

Lumley - Daniel Iverson - Loan
Daniels - Zander Clark
Bamba - Darragh Lenihan
Fry - Ross Sykes
Wood - Jacob Greaves
Peltier - Ben Gibson - Loan
Spence - Jack Stacey - Loan
Payero - Elliott Anderson - Loan
Howson - Gavin Kilkenny - Loan
Tavernier - Callum O'Hare
Siliki - Kamil Conteh
Taylor - Kai Wagner
Sporar - Viktor Gyokeres
Connolly - Lucas João
Balogun - Antoine Semenyo

Semenyo would be class! I remember him against us in the cup for Newport in 2018.

BIG overhaul coming
 
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newyddion said:
I think our squad will be transformed regardless of who comes in just with the sheer numbers..

Lumley - Daniel Iverson - Loan
Daniels - Zander Clark
Bamba - Darragh Lenihan
Fry - Ross Sykes
Wood - Jacob Greaves
Peltier - Ben Gibson - Loan
Spence - Jack Stacey - Loan
Payero - Elliott Anderson - Loan
Howson - Gavin Kilkenny - Loan
Tavernier - Callum O'Hare
Siliki - Kamil Conteh
Taylor - Kai Wagner
Sporar - Viktor Gyokeres
Connolly - Lucas João
Balogun - Antoine Semenyo

Semenyo would be class! I remember him against us in the cup for Newport in 2018.

BIG overhaul coming
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OK.
So thats the reserves, but what about the first team squad?!!
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newyddion said:
I think our squad will be transformed regardless of who comes in just with the sheer numbers..

Lumley - Daniel Iverson - Loan
Daniels - Zander Clark
Bamba - Darragh Lenihan
Fry - Ross Sykes
Wood - Jacob Greaves
Peltier - Ben Gibson - Loan
Spence - Jack Stacey - Loan
Payero - Elliott Anderson - Loan
Howson - Gavin Kilkenny - Loan
Tavernier - Callum O'Hare
Siliki - Kamil Conteh
Taylor - Kai Wagner
Sporar - Viktor Gyokeres
Connolly - Lucas João
Balogun - Antoine Semenyo

Semenyo would be class! I remember him against us in the cup for Newport in 2018.

BIG overhaul coming
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it certainly will be a very different squad and this is a great opportunity this year looking at how weak the relegated sides are, and a reduced number of teams with parachute payments.
 
We don't need a big overhaul, just 5 quality players or better than we have.
Goalie
CB left footed
MF left footed
2 strikers. ( We already have Coburn and Watmore)

Of those if we had one better goalie last season we would have got into the playoffs and then who knows from there, so we aren't far off the pace. Too many new players could mean a large chunk of the season finding out what works and what doesn't.
+ CW needs to show better judgment with the strikers there was a patch were Balogun seemed to be finding his scoring touch and he was back on the bench, it didn't help him, us or the other strikers.
 
Recruiting the right players for Wilder's fixed system is key.

Mart - I accept you can go up with lower scoring strikers and spreading the goals around, but it is much more likely with a couple of onion baggers.
I think we will sign Gyokeres, IF Wilder really wants him. I really struggle with his track record re strikers.
Gyokeres or Piroe, with Riis and Joao would get us the goals that will give us a big advantage. Spence plus Morris money would get them.
I'd trade one of McNair, Fry or Tavernier to raise funds to bring in a GK, DCM, LCB and LWB. Frees, Loans, one player sale and a little Gibson investment would cover this easily.
We don't need another left footed midfielder unless Tavernier is sold. We need a left footed wing back and a left footed centre back.

I think there will be quality recruitment as the timing is right for a number of reasons.
I'm really optimistic Gibson will have a go. I'm just hopeful Scott and Wilder are up to it.
 
BoroMart said:
is that true?

21-22:
Fulham - Mitrovich 43 - YES
Bournemouth - Solanke 29 YES
Forest - Johnson 16 NO

none of those teams had a couple of strikers getting 20+ goals. Forests top CF had 12 goals.

20-21:
Norwich - Pukki 26 YES
Watford - Sarr 13 NO
Brentford - Toney 31 YES

Norwich had Buendia on 15, the other two didn't have another forward in double figures


19-20:
Leeds - Bamford 16 NO
West Brom - Austin 10, Robson-Kanu 10 NO
Fulham - Mitrovic 26 YES

Fulhams second top was 8, Leeds was 9


So 4 of the last 9 promoted sides did not have a 20+ striker None of them had a couple of 20+ strikers. It's fundamentally incorrect to claim you need 20+ strikers for promotion, it's even possible to get promoted with 10 goal strikers.
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Ah, I didn't mean that you had to have two 20+ goals a season strikers. The premise is that the top scoring teams are promoted. A couple of strikers scoring 20 or more goals would help enormously.
 
indeedido said:
Mart - I accept you can go up with lower scoring strikers and spreading the goals around, but it is much more likely with a couple of onion baggers.
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it certainly puts less pressure on your defenders. It's also the hardest to get right, and I also think that expectations are too high sometimes, a 15 and a 10 goal CF would be enough with a competent defence.

Gyokeres could be that 15 goaler.
 
It's not Wilders record buying strikers I'm worried about it's ours. Invariably when we spend a lot of cash on a striker they're *****. And every time we spend all that cash we have to cut elsewhere. Buy Britt sell Bamford. Buy alves sell your midfield.
The best forward we've bought since relegation isn't Britt or braithwaite or Fletcher who we spent a fortune on. Or even hughil or akpom we spent less on. It's watmore who we picked up on a free.
Really hope we don't spend all the Spence money on some tart who picked up 20 goals because he's got a decent team behind him.
 
2 from
Emil Riis £5m
Jordy Caicedo £2m
Josip Drmic free
Cole Stockton £700k
Shamar Nicholson loan
Giacomo Vrioni loan
3 from
Joel Piroe £7m
Denis Undav loan
Adam Armstrong loan
Flo Balogun loan
Jack Clarke loan
Dwight Gayle loan
Dany Motta free
Neeskens Kebano loan
Oli Shaw £500k - Olusanya swap involved
Harry Cornick free
 
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I’d only want them if they were for a fairly low price which I doubt any of them would be. I’d much rather we looked abroad or to the lower leagues for better value.
 
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