Cash for access to Johnson

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Even if this goes nowhere, what the FT has put together shows that the Conservative Party has become a tool of its rich donors. Ordinary people – the plebs – don’t get a look-in. And when we look to see why politics is broken, we are that much closer to knowing why.
 
You are indeed correct it did not say you were insulted, I miss read that.

I see nothing to be ashamed of for not voting anything but Labour. Until there is only one box at the ballot it's a free country. They did not trust Corbyn, it's that simple, it's our (labours) fault for voting him as leader.
Again that's not what said, of course its a free country and they are other options besides labour and tory and its not compulsory. Its a free country so iam entitled to say that anyone voting for this shower should be ashamed of handing them power.
 
What was their alternative? A bloke who changed the manifesto by the day, surrounded himself with a coatery of left wing centric Londoners, discussed Moira from Cockermouth at PMQs, had no idea how to fight against a right wing nut job, had zero policy on Brexit'. I still voted for him, but I would guess for the first time at least 10 of my family did not vote Labour. I see nothing to be ashamed of that given the alternative.
 
What was their alternative? A bloke who changed the manifesto by the day, surrounded himself with a coatery of left wing centric Londoners, discussed Moira from Cockermouth at PMQs, had no idea how to fight against a right wing nut job, had zero policy on Brexit'. I still voted for him, but I would guess for the first time at least 10 of my family did not vote Labour. I see nothing to be ashamed of that given the alternative.
Ok will try one last time, if, and I mean IF they voted tory they should be ashamed handing this utter shambles of a government so much power, they should be ashamed of voting tory just on their despicable treatment of those with disabilities over the last 11 years.
The last 15 months of cronyism , corruption and negligence, which has led to thousands of unnecessary deaths would certainly leave me feeling ashamed of putting them into power , if I had done so.
So once again iam not saying they should be ashamed of not voting Labour.
 
And we should be ashamed to have had Corbyn as a leader.

As for the rest of the twaddle you wrote, I would blame Milne, and whoever if there was anyone advising Corbyn.
 
And we should be ashamed to have had Corbyn as a leader.

As for the rest of the twaddle you wrote, I would blame Milne, and whoever if there was anyone advising Corbyn.
Of course you would, your desperate to excuse blaming those who voted for the shambles despite the warning signs been there
 
What are they to be blamed for? In their view there was no alternative, we blew it.

I am pretty confident that they will return with Starmer.
 
And we should be ashamed to have had Corbyn as a leader.

As for the rest of the twaddle you wrote, I would blame Milne, and whoever if there was anyone advising Corbyn.
This constant attack on Corbyn makes you look daft - had the policies of the last Labour manifesto been in place and Corbyn been PM I can guarantee you we'd be in a better position as a nation than we are now, a blind fool can see that much.
 
This constant attack on Corbyn makes you look daft - had the policies of the last Labour manifesto been in place and Corbyn been PM I can guarantee you we'd be in a better position as a nation than we are now, a blind fool can see that much.
Guarantee?
 
You cannot understand how much he was laughed at. The workies club I go in, a big place full of labour voters if you have never been in one, to a man and woman disowned him and could not believe I was still voting for him. Before you blame the Daily Mail I have never seen one in that club.

You live in the labour bubble, cannot see passed the rule book and clause 4, those days are a dead parrot.
 
You cannot understand how much he was laughed at. The workies club I go in, a big place full of labour voters if you have never been in one, to a man and woman disowned him and could not believe I was still voting for him. Before you blame the Daily Mail I have never seen one in that club.

You live in the labour bubble, cannot see passed the rule book and clause 4, those days are a dead parrot.

I come from Ashington, a real Labour heartland. What I do see and hear, thankfully, is regret from those who didn't support the party in 2019, and loads of people who thought they'd vote for Johnson gutted that they did so and tearing strips off him.
 
It's an interesting thing corruption. The jolly hockey sticks Germans can teach us a few lessons. They produced cars that poisoned the atmosphere X 600 to that reported. They did that by generating software to confuse the testing.

Then the beloved leader of that country told any European country who wants to sue then will have their manufacturering removed from those countries, even if they were insistent, to call in their loans.

In Trumpshire the despised leader told them to take their manufacturering with them and close the gates. Oh by the way we want $1 trillion in compensation, and change the bent cars for new ones. They did not close the manufacturering.

Corruption we need lessons
 
I come from Ashington, a real Labour heartland. What I do see and hear, thankfully, is regret from those who didn't support the party in 2019, and loads of people who thought they'd vote for Johnson gutted that they did so and tearing strips off him.
Now we agree. There is regret, that there was no alternative. I thought your near neighbour voted Tory?
 
What are they to be blamed for? In their view there was no alternative, we blew it.

I am pretty confident that they will return with Starmer.
They must have had a different ballot paper to me , on mine they was more than labour and tory and it wasn't even compulsory to vote.
 
What are they to be blamed for? In their view there was no alternative, we blew it.

I am pretty confident that they will return with Starmer.
They must have had a different ballot paper to me , on mine they was more than labour and tory and it wasn't even compulsory to vote.
 
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