Brother in law attacked at match

Hooliganism was of its time. Before that it was mods and rockers, in Glasgow the knife blades even Peaky blinders.

It wasn't right but it was understandable, blokes will do sad things.

Today we have anti-vaxers and annual some sort of riot in London. Be it from the left or the right.

I truly feel sorry for the lad hurt on here, cowards are cowards.
 
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I've been to ~50 grounds away with Middlesbrough mostly late 80's and all through 90's...never been targeted or involved in violence . I've been on high alert at Leeds, Newcastle, Chelsea, West Ham and Millwall as the threat of imminent violence was real but I mostly avoided it without ever having to run

And I have never worn colours to an away game apart from finals at Wembley & Cardiff. I have a strong aversion to nylon TBH.

Away fans who wear colours are taking a risk at SOME grounds, including our own. This is a terrible incident and the people behind it are absolute scum, no excuses, but the truth is you cannot wear other team colours at every football ground and assume there is no risk of attracting the attention of drunken morons from the home team's area. Why take the risk unless you are in a significant group?
 
BoroBukowski said:
I've been to ~50 grounds away with Middlesbrough mostly late 80's and all through 90's...never been targeted or involved in violence . I've been on high alert at Leeds, Newcastle, Chelsea, West Ham and Millwall as the threat of imminent violence was real but I mostly avoided it without ever having to run

And I have never worn colours to an away game apart from finals at Wembley & Cardiff. I have a strong aversion to nylon TBH.

Away fans who wear colours are taking a risk at SOME grounds, including our own. This is a terrible incident and the people behind it are absolute scum, no excuses, but the truth is you cannot wear other team colours at every football ground and assume there is no risk of attracting the attention of drunken morons from the home team's area. Why take the risk unless you are in a significant group?
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It was kids wearing QPR colours - and teenage thugs that attacked the non-colours wearing father.
 
fmttmadmin said:
It was kids wearing QPR colours - and teenage thugs that attacked the non-colours wearing father.
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He was wearing a Hartlepool shirt Rob, that's what it says earlier in the thread anyway. Everyone should be able to wear whatever they want to an away game including men wearing dresses or a kimono or another team's shirt, if they so choose...

But doing so is not risk free, that's the point I am making
 
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Michael_Vronsky said:
Exactly. Decent people have decency. I'm trying to say that people do atrocious things nowadays in the knowledge that they'll pretty much get away with it.
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Correct. The Tories have defunded the police and the criminal justice system out of an extreme Libertarian view that access to security and justice should be mainly for the wealthy via private means. It is ideological and not just pure incompetence this time

The Tories are the party of Crime and Disorder but if for some strange reason you read right-wing tabloids you'd never know this
 
BoroBukowski said:
Correct. The Tories have defunded the police and the criminal justice system out of an extreme Libertarian view that access to security and justice should be mainly for the wealthy via private means. It is ideological and not just pure incompetence this time

The Tories are the party of Crime and Disorder but if for some strange reason you read right-wing tabloids you'd never know this
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Exactly. Couldn't agree more.
 
Mountain Climber said:
There was a group of young QPR fans who were very vocal and tbh drawing negative attention to themselves by taunting and laughing at Boro fans after the game leaving the away end.

It is not a crime to celebrate your teams win but sadly their loutish behaviour draws attention from other louts. It is sad that the innocent often get targeted because of the antic of the guilty. So necessary.
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Come on beating up somebody with their kids is out of order. I hope some bird is handed out to those responsible.

I was absolutely sickened to see what happened at the euros finals.

I was chatting to some qpr fans before the game. A lovely club.

opening post direct message me I would like to send some flowers or a gift to the lad who was assaulted to let him know that Middlesbrough football club fans are horrified by what has happened to him.
 
Redlips said:
Come on beating up somebody with their kids is out of order. I hope some bird is handed out to those responsible.

I was absolutely sickened to see what happened at the euros finals.

I was chatting to some qpr fans before the game. A lovely club.

opening post direct message me I would like to send some flowers or a gift to the lad who was assaulted to let him know that Middlesbrough football club fans are horrified by what has happened to him.
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Well said Sir.
 
Sounds like the root cause is both social deprivation and possibly some mental health issues, a product of their environment no doubt, really sad to be honest, but they need to be dealt with, they may come off worse one of these days.
 
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Sounds like the root cause is both social deprivation and possibly some mental health issues, a product of their environment no doubt, really sad to be honest, but they need to be dealt with, they may come off worse one of these days.
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Anyone who attacks and severely assaults a father with a 7 and 9 year old child alongside him is absolute scum beyond redemption

There are people in the world who are pure malice like the perpetrators here, no mental health/environment excuses required. Some people are no good and never will be. They are psychopaths incapable of sympathy with any human being

Hence wearing colours to an away game is a risk I will never take - malicious people with no good within them exist, I'm not going to give them an excuse
 
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