British troops in Gaza?

Laughing said:
I would argue that in an open forum such as parliament the government shouldn't answer a question like that. Wouldn't it jeopardise security.
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Yeah quite possibly. But that's a different matter.

He's entitled to ask it, the government have to then assess if they can answer it.

But I don't think you can have the government just relying on that rationale to refuse to answer any questions on the activities of our armed forces. Surely has to be on a case by case basis.
 
festa5 said:
Yeah quite possibly. But that's a different matter.

He's entitled to ask it, the government have to then assess if they can answer it.

But I don't think you can have the government just relying on that rationale to refuse to answer any questions on the activities of our armed forces. Surely has to be on a case by case basis.
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Of course. However, given that if we do have troops in the region they are probably not supposed to be there I would suggest this is a case where it shouldn't be discussed openly.
 
Kosovo said:
Hamas have already killed British citizens on 7th October so doesn’t that mean it’s got something to do with us.
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The British State is supporting the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children in Gaza.
We have the right to know who, where, what and why.
 
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Laughing said:
Of course. However, given that if we do have troops in the region they are probably not supposed to be there I would suggest this is a case where it shouldn't be discussed openly.
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I tend to agree, but only because of the safety of those troops in question.

However if they shouldn't be there it's exactly right that this is queried, even if it won't receive an answer.

Bit of a catch 22 isn't it?
 
Laughing said:
I would imagine any commanding officer of deployed troops in an area they are not supposed to be, would disagree.
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The question is: WHY are the British State involved in the genocide.
"We`ve" been embedded with Israel since before October 7th 2023.
We`ve been supplying bombs, drones and military hardware to Tel Aviv for decades, sharing intelligence and fuelling the Israeli war machine.
Its no surpirse.
"National Security"?
Whose "nation" and whose "security"?
Not mine nor those of the thousands of dead Palestinians - which goes back to Balfour, the British Mandate and 1948, not just a few months ago.

If Jeremy Corbyn asking that question in Parliament is resulting in debate on here, then he`s doing his job. Its called "Democracy".
 
Laughing said:
Thats not a serious question is it? Do the troops have permission to be there, would be the first diplomatic question to be asked. The second might be Hamas targetting british troops.

This can't be a serious question.
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Nah I just discuss things like this for ***** and giggles. Of course I'm serious. How will discussing our troops going to war in Gaza jeopardise our security? We kind of should of done that before the Iraq war, you know when Iraq supposedly had WMD, which they never had.
 
r00fie1 said:
The question is: WHY are the British State involved in the genocide.
"We`ve" been embedded with Israel since before October 7th 2023.
We`ve been supplying bombs, drones and military hardware to Tel Aviv for decades, sharing intelligence and fuelling the Israeli war machine.
Its no surpirse.
"National Security"?
Whose "nation" and whose "security"?
Not mine nor those of the thousands of dead Palestinians - which goes back to Balfour, the British Mandate and 1948, not just a few months ago.

If Jeremy Corbyn asking that question in Parliament is resulting in debate on here, then he`s doing his job. Its called "Democracy".
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I have no idea even if we have troops there, but if we do, rightly or wrongly, the safety of those troops has to be the governments first priority.

There isn't an automatic freedom of information for military operations Roofie, you know this.

This is not to support or otherwise any decision to have troops there. The question was never going to be answered and I think it was a stupid question from Corbyn and given he isn't a stupid man, you have to wonder why it was asked in a public forum.
 
festa5 said:
I tend to agree, but only because of the safety of those troops in question.

However if they shouldn't be there it's exactly right that this is queried, even if it won't receive an answer.

Bit of a catch 22 isn't it?
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I agree with all of this Festa, other than the right to query if it puts british servicemen in danger.
 
Laughing said:
I have no idea even if we have troops there, but if we do, rightly or wrongly, the safety of those troops has to be the governments first priority.

There isn't an automatic freedom of information for military operations Roofie, you know this.

This is not to support or otherwise any decision to have troops there. The question was never going to be answered and I think it was a stupid question from Corbyn and given he isn't a stupid man, you have to wonder why it was asked in a public forum.
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Because he`s a democratically elected Member of Parliament.
If Members of Parliament cant ask questions, it raises another question - who then is really in control?
If people hadnt asked questions about British complicity in Iraq in systemic torture, extradition of innocent detainees to Guantanamo, our role in supporting and facilitating American genocide and wars around the world - would we be doing our duty as humans?
If Tony Blair had been allowed to carry on murdering innocent Iraqis, would it not be human to ask, "what the bluddy hell is going on in our name"?
Is it not right we should know if British troops are being exposed to serious injury or death?
Awkward questions have to be raised to bring power to account.
"National Security" is a passport for the state to do exactly what the hell it likes.
I think we have enough proof of what happens once that gets out of control - European History in the last 100 years provides us with enough examples.
 
1finny said:
He’s asking a very good question and, frankly, we have a right to know where our forces are being deployed.

It’s got firk all to do with us and could endanger people in this country if hamas sympathisers were to take action.
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perhaps we should defend ourselves then and take action against Hamas Terrorist sympathisers,
 
r00fie1 said:
Because he`s a democratically elected Member of Parliament.
If Members of Parliament cant ask questions, it raises another question - who then is really in control?
If people hadnt asked questions about British complicity in Iraq in systemic torture, extradition of innocent detainees to Guantanamo, our role in supporting and facilitating American genocide and wars around the world - would we be doing our duty as humans?
If Tony Blair had been allowed to carry on murdering innocent Iraqis, would it not be human to ask, "what the bluddy hell is going on in our name"?
Is it not right we should know if British troops are being exposed to serious injury or death?
Awkward questions have to be raised to bring power to account.
"National Security" is a passport for the state to do exactly what the hell it likes.
I think we have enough proof of what happens once that gets out of control - European History in the last 100 years provides us with enough examples.
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Not sure if this is correct but you would have to have the necessary security clearance which most of parliament wouldn't have.
 
GibbosEmpire said:
Nah I just discuss things like this for ***** and giggles. Of course I'm serious. How will discussing our troops going to war in Gaza jeopardise our security? We kind of should of done that before the Iraq war, you know when Iraq supposedly had WMD, which they never had.
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Our troops will not be at war in Gaza. They will not be part of the bombings and they will not be part of any ground or armoured assaults. Any units there will be for reconnaissance and the monitoring of any known threats to us, possibly also for the protection or the evacuation of any assets we may have there.

British soldiers will not be killing Palestine civilians.
 
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