Branthwaite’s assault

TeaCider said:
Seems like it.

They tend to out only give retroactive punishment for deliberate violent conduct, and as horrible as it was, I don't think anyone thinks Branthwaite did it on purpose.
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I dont think intent matters, when its negligence of this magnitude that endangers fellow players.
 
TeaCider said:
It shouldn't matter, but it does when it comes to retrospective punishment.
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I must admit I really dont get it.

Either the ref saw the incident and thought it merited no further action, in which case he is incompetent or negligent, or he didn't see it, and the EFL or FA should investigate it, in which case they are incompetent for not doing so.

I really don't get this "we cant do anything if the ref saw it" bull$hit. Its obviously more important to the league to stand behind refs when something so blatantly wrong and unjust has happened. its a cop out. They just cant admit a ref made a mistake, when it obvious to everyone that mistakes are made by everyone everyday.
 
Billy69_uk said:
I must admit I really dont get it.

Either the ref saw the incident and thought it merited no further action, in which case he is incompetent or negligent, or he didn't see it, and the EFL or FA should investigate it, in which case they are incompetent for not doing so.

I really don't get this "we cant do anything if the ref saw it" bull$hit. Its obviously more important to the league to stand behind refs when something so blatantly wrong and unjust has happened. its a cop out. They just cant admit a ref made a mistake, when it obvious to everyone that mistakes are made by everyone everyday.
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I think everyone (except for the conspiracists) realizes it was a mistake. I don't think the ref has to come out and say it, and I certainly don't think the FA has to say the ref made a mistake.
 
Soutra said:
I think everyone (except for the conspiracists) realizes it was a mistake. I don't think the ref has to come out and say it, and I certainly don't think the FA has to say the ref made a mistake.
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Ok so if it’s a mistake by the ref then why no retrospective action and why is the ref still involved in officiating?
 
I can understand refs have to have an element of being bomb proof otherwise they’d look like the moon getting blasted persistently from all angles BUT
in today’s game where there are so many camera angles etc they should not be untouchable post match . Fans/team after the other night deserve some reproach from the officials or their governing body .
 
Soutra said:
Because mistakes happen to everyone. Why is Assombalonga still playing when 90% of his shots hit the roof of the stand?
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maybe because Britt's mistakes arent endangering anyone? unless you are a fan sat 15 rows back and 25 seats wide of the post when he is attempting a shot on goal. Then you are bang in trouble.
 
This all leaves a very sour taste. Regardless of blame and/or intention, we were shafted out of an obvious penalty and red card, and to the best of our knowledge neither the officials on the day nor anybody at the EFL, FA etc has lifted a finger to get in touch, apologise or even acknowledge it. This was discussed on the other thread a few days ago, but it's very difficult not to develop a chip on one's shoulder in these circumstances.
 
The referee is 4th official for the next two rounds of games, which in refs circles is seen as punishment.

In regards refs views on this they overwhelmingly criticise the non decision (clearly no other view could be made), but it was tempered with the hatred of NW or Colin as they call him.
 
futureboy said:
Yes he did - I was outraged by that, but the appointment had been announced at the same time as our game, so I guess they couldn't pull him from the MK Dons game even if they wanted to (which they clearly don't).

He's fourth official at Derby this weekend - is fourth official a demotion or do refs all take their turns doing it? Or is the punishment having to watch a Derby match?
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If they want to punish him they should make him fourth official at our next game.

If the ref and linesman didn't see it, how were they able to award a goal kick?
 
Laughing said:
Chris it wasn't a poor decision, it was rank bad, a dereliction of duty, one that could have back fired really badly if the players had over reacted to the challenge.

It had no place on a football pitch, albeit accidental.
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So for me, it appears that because, very fortunately the fact that Fry did not get a serious/ life changing injury, there is no enquiry. So what would happen, if the incident was serious and say Fry lost an eye, would there then be an enquiry into the competence and safe guarding issues???
 
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