Boro 5th Highest Wage Bill in Championship

Even if we're 5th highest, it doesn't mean too much in itself.

I could be 4 clubs paying double everyone else's wage bill, then everyone else within a few k.
 
I'm not overly convinced by some of these wages. I mean Warnock said Howson had taken a massive pay reduction when signing a new one year deal. Yet this states he's on 25k a week (how much was he on😕)

We've just moved on 3 massively paid forwards to pay Sporar 31k? That doesn't make sense. I mean I'm not sure he's that good.

Marcus Brownes had a good 'free' payday from us if he's on 7900k a week. He's probably played under 15 games.

I shake my head and just think 'the world's gone mad' if some of those wages are remotely true.

That said if Josh Coburn is really on £360 a week. The guy needs a new deal 👍
 
14k a week for Grant Hall seems way overpriced, especially given his injury record i cant imagine him have being in a strong bargaining position when he signed. If i was Dael Fry i would be getting a new agent, grant hall getting more than double.
 
The average (mean) salary is apparently £29K/week in the championship, according to multiple sources. But it is skewed by the 60k/week parachute payment players.

I haven't seen any hard figures but for non-parachute teams, I would think the average drops to about 18k meaning we only have 3 high earners.

Our overall wage structure seems under control. The big issue is as a % of our wages who has been over acheiving and who hasn't been value for money? Assuming these figures are accurate:

- spent 150k getting payero up to speed
- 150k on Hall on the physio table
- 140k on Ameobi for no return
- 160k on Fisher for no return
- 120k on sitting Siliki on the bench
That's about 750k down the pan.

Flip side Isiah Jones, Peltier, Tavenier, Bamba, Fry, Crooks and Watmore have all been great value
 
r00fie1 said:
Why dont you go to the site and follow their sources, then you can make your own mind up - without "guessing"?(y)
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Maybe he could if the website actually supported their data with sources. Other than to say they lift information from articles, databases, industry experts they find, there's nothing to follow, and as I found out in the summer when looking for info Barca's wage bill, their info is mostly incorrect.
 
I suspect the initial article merely looks at the published salary/wage costs from the annual published accounts of each club. Given this covers only up until Summer 2020, they are well out of date when looking at this season's wage bills two seasons later.

Our wage bill was incredibly high subsidised by parachute payments, then couldn't drop fast enough because of contracted detritus like Assombolonga that we couldn't shift.

Current wage bill will be an awful lot lower.
If Sporar's reported wage covers a loan arrangement then £1.5m is actually pretty good value. A three year deal on a £6m fee would hit the P&L with £2m every year, without wages.
 
MFP said:
Maybe he could if the website actually supported their data with sources. Other than to say they lift information from articles, databases, industry experts they find, there's nothing to follow, and as I found out in the summer when looking for info Barca's wage bill, their info is mostly incorrect.
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Sometimes you have to dig deep, but it takes time and a researcher needs to be positive, otherwise people rienforce their own prejudices and doubts.
If some journalist claims Boro have the fifth highest wage bill in the Chanpionship - where do they get their information from?
The original post should give you some leads.
 
anth25 said:
Did someone above say that Deeney is on £80k at Birmingham??? That can't be right
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I am quoting the Daily Mail on Saturday - the website listed by BoroMart says £77k, so thats 2 sources.

£80k is typical mid to lower Premier League and Deeney still has a good few years left in him.
 
Telling Cuthbert to go to the site and follow sources when there literally are no sources suggests to me you didn't even read through the site yourself before posting. If merely claiming "Sources - Press releases, news & articles, online encyclopedias & databases, industry experts & insiders. We find the information so you don't have to!" is enough to impress you then fair enough, but salarysport is complete and utter **** and them putting numbers next to names without any supporting info shouldn't be trusted.

And you can find the club's financial report on Companies House, but it only covers until the end of June 2020 where the wage bill was just under £31m. Reports for last season and the current are not available.
 
MFP said:
Telling Cuthbert to go to the site and follow sources when there literally are no sources suggests to me you didn't even read through the site yourself before posting. If merely claiming "Sources - Press releases, news & articles, online encyclopedias & databases, industry experts & insiders. We find the information so you don't have to!" is enough to impress you then fair enough, but salarysport is complete and utter **** and them putting numbers next to names without any supporting info shouldn't be trusted.

And you can find the club's financial report on Companies House, but it only covers until the end of June 2020 where the wage bill was just under £31m. Reports for last season and the current are not available.
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I suggest you stop making assumptions - instead of being critical - try looking for yourself.

If you read what I posted I questioned the "reported" salaries at the beginning of the following sentence: "I`de be really concerned if the reported salaries....

"If" implies there is no certainty

"reported" means - based on the information provided.

That is why I reached no definite conclusions, because the information source(s) havent been verified nor identified.

Their is no implied assumption of accuracy on my part, so you really have to read and understand what is in front of you.



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I did look for myself and quite clearly salarysport is not a credible or reputable source of information. I get that people like yourself and Boromart believe what it claims because the information is agreeable rather than correct, but you will see that they have absolutely nothing to support their figures so it really doesn't make sense to tell Cuthbert to follow their sources that don't even exist.

Unless the club itself publishes details of these contracts there's no way of knowing what the current wage bill is until full accounts are published, which I think will be in 2023.
 
MFP said:
I did look for myself and quite clearly salarysport is not a credible or reputable source of information. I get that people like yourself and Boromart believe what it claims because the information is agreeable rather than correct, but you will see that they have absolutely nothing to support their figures so it really doesn't make sense to tell Cuthbert to follow their sources that don't even exist.

Unless the club itself publishes details of these contracts there's no way of knowing what the current wage bill is until full accounts are published, which I think will be in 2023.
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"I get that people like yourself and Boromart believe what it claims because the information is agreeable rather than correct" (?!) [Your assertion]

I will clarify for one last time:

[My text]
If you read what I posted I questioned the "reported" salaries at the beginning of the following sentence: "I`de be really concerned if the reported salaries....

"If" implies there is no certainty

"reported" means - based on the information provided.

That is why I reached no definite conclusions, because the information source(s) havent been verified nor identified.

Their is no implied assumption of accuracy on my part, so you really have to read and understand what is in front of you.


As for "people like yourself" ....and the comment concerning the information being "agreeable rather than correct" - you are making the inference that I have an interest in posting the information - contrary to my stated intention.

I have questioned the information and its validity. If you read the quote from my early post to you [in Bold size 22 font] above, you will see quite clearly what I have said - and why I question the validity of the figures. [Contrary to your assertion]

If that simple explanation is too difficult for you to understand, then I appologise, because I cannot simplify it any further, without turning the thread into a dissertation on Research Methodology.

I hope that clarifies the issue for you. (y)
 
"Why dont you go to the site and follow their sources, then you can make your own mind up - without "guessing"?"

The point being that there are no sources. People have made their mind up. The salary info posted is crap.
 
Redwurzel said:
I am quoting the Daily Mail on Saturday - the website listed by BoroMart says £77k, so thats 2 sources.

£80k is typical mid to lower Premier League and Deeney still has a good few years left in him.
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Apologies, I wasn't meaning to question you more I couldn't believe that B'ham were paying £80k for anyone, let alone Troy Deeney. He's 33 now so never going to be any sell on value. Assuming he stays with them for 2-yrs that's over £8m. That's staggering and I don't see how it fits with FFP especially given their financial issues in recent years
 
anth25 said:
Apologies, I wasn't meaning to question you more I couldn't believe that B'ham were paying £80k for anyone, let alone Troy Deeney. He's 33 now so never going to be any sell on value. Assuming he stays with them for 2-yrs that's over £8m. That's staggering and I don't see how it fits with FFP especially given their financial issues in recent years
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It might not, but isn't it a combined total loss of in excess of £39m over a rolling three-year period? Birmingham are within that unless their recent accounts show excessive losses.
 
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