Boris Johnson Massive…

TheYorkshireTerrier said:
I saw this woman on the news yesterday and I just can’t accept that she has said that of her own free will. Surely she’s been given a backhanded to come out with that?
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I think they genuinely walk among us.

How can you even argue against someone like that?

"He's been stitched up but they all lie". Well the inquiry was about whether he lied or not. You seem to accept he lied so how has he been stitched up then?

"He was a bit cowardly but I'd still vote for him".

So he's a liar and a coward but you like him and would still vote for him...... WHY?????? 🤯

it's like these people have Stockholm syndrome or something.
 
festa5 said:
I think they genuinely walk among us.

How can you even argue against someone like that?

"He's been stitched up but they all lie". Well the inquiry was about whether he lied or not. You seem to accept he lied so how has he been stitched up then?

"He was a bit cowardly but I'd still vote for him".

So he's a liar and a coward but you like him and would still vote for him...... WHY?????? 🤯

it's like these people have Stockholm syndrome or something.
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More or less. They are people incapable of their own agency so they have to project it onto someone else, even though they can see that he is a con-man. At least that way they can deny their own culpability.
 
festa5 said:
So he's a liar and a coward but you like him and would still vote for him...... WHY?????? 🤯

it's like these people have Stockholm syndrome or something.
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Because it would mean them admitting to themselves and to others that they made a mistake.

It seems to be a growing thing an absolute completely fixed denial of reality. Flat earth and every other conspiracy theory you ever read about they never look for truth only for confirmation.
 
Muttley said:
Because it would mean them admitting to themselves and to others that they made a mistake.

It seems to be a growing thing an absolute completely fixed denial of reality. Flat earth and every other conspiracy theory you ever read about they never look for truth only for confirmation.
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100%

And of course the narrative always shifts anyway.

It's gone from "he definitely didn't lie"

To: "he didn't know he was lying"

To: "well ok he might have lied, but it doesn't matter and how dare they punish him for it".

The mental gymnastics required to keep finding ways to excuse his behaviour must be exhausting.
 
festa5 said:
I think they genuinely walk among us.

How can you even argue against someone like that?

"He's been stitched up but they all lie". Well the inquiry was about whether he lied or not. You seem to accept he lied so how has he been stitched up then?

"He was a bit cowardly but I'd still vote for him".

So he's a liar and a coward but you like him and would still vote for him...... WHY?????? 🤯

it's like these people have Stockholm syndrome or something.
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It’s a cult
 
Ziggy said:
So given the actual Prime Minister is unable to say if he will be in Parliament for the debate.
It’s already being put about that there’s possibly a serious visitor due to meet him Monday.
In terms of party cohesion does he not have duty to be in attendance.
Frightened of being caught in the cross fire and too weak to have any impact on the direction.
Will he still be there at the next election?
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I don't disagree that Sunak is weak and his morals are dubious, like a lot of the party, just not for the reasons given.

If this were Labour they would do everything they could to spin it to help their electoral chances.
 
festa5 said:
I think they genuinely walk among us.

How can you even argue against someone like that?

"He's been stitched up but they all lie". Well the inquiry was about whether he lied or not. You seem to accept he lied so how has he been stitched up then?

"He was a bit cowardly but I'd still vote for him".

So he's a liar and a coward but you like him and would still vote for him...... WHY?????? 🤯

it's like these people have Stockholm syndrome or something.
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Their reasoning starts from the conclusion that Johnson did no wrong, then trying to find ways to justify it. It's not uncommon in modern debate, to start at the endpoint, then only select whatever evidence supports your initial position.

Johnson states that he was "forced out"by the report, and that is true enough. However, this contains the erroneous implication that the report was somehow wrong in its findings, or to force him out. He was rightly forced out, in the way the legal system forces criminals into jail. He was only forced out as he lacked the dignity and decency to jump without being pushed.
 
Frozen Horse said:
Their reasoning starts from the conclusion that Johnson did no wrong, then trying to find ways to justify it. It's not uncommon in modern debate, to start at the endpoint, then only select whatever evidence supports your initial position.

Johnson states that he was "forced out"by the report, and that is true enough. However, this contains the erroneous implication that the report was somehow wrong in its findings, or to force him out. He was rightly forced out, in the way the legal system forces criminals into jail. He was only forced out as he lacked the dignity and decency to jump without being pushed.
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It's not true that Johnson has been forced out. Though it is true he said that.

He could serve his suspension and let the people of Uxbridge and Ruislip judge him
 
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