Bombing in Yemen overnight

The ships are not going to Israel. They are not owned by Israelis. They are not manned by Israelis. The cargo is not going to Israel. The cargo is not military hardware.

This is not preventing anything that is happening in Palestine.
Steer.
With all due respect.
You are way off beam.

For 98 days, the USA has vetoed General Assembly and United Nations Security Council Resolutions — along with the UK. Thus denying aid and humanitarian support into Gaza. The Zionist fanatics have bombed and murdered innocent civilians, the majority women and children, deliberately bombed shelters, schools, hospitals, UN Workers, critical infrastructure, “safe zones” [!!!], Rafah Crossing, displaced Persons camps - living in tents, food warehouses and communications. In addition, they have deliberately targeted over 100 journalists, who were reporting the genocide to the world. Human body-parts are scattered across neighbourhoods, and thousands are buried under the rubble. Body bags have been placed in mass graves dug by bulldozers, whilst the American Jets and Missiles murder yet more civilians. There is no fresh water and sewerage has filled streets. Disease is rife and children and women are being starved to death.

You call Israel a “democracy”? A home for the Jews? It is neither. To say what we see happening is in the name of Judaism is anti-Semitic. The Zionists use that phrase to shut people up and disguise their colonial expansionist project. The fanatical extremist settlers in the West Bank are murdering children and innocent civilians and invading Palestinian homes and removing people at gun point. They have run over the bodies of young children in their military vehicles and detained over 4000 Palestinians since October 7th. But, the fact is, long before October 7th, time began when the fanatics started to expel Palestinians from their land. The occupation began with the British Mandate, which was the handing over someone else's land, by one colonial power, to another.

Neither UK nor USA has supported or voted for a ceasefire. Both continue to export and arm the Zionist entity, whilst Israel fires the bullets and commits massacres daily: because their target is one ethnic group — The Palestinians.

That is not just “ethnic cleansing”, it's genocide.


The truth is, the USA and UK support the Zionist project and have a vested economic, geopolitical and military interest in the persistence of this vile regime. We are complicit: from the military top brass, our establishment, the big arms manufacturers, including Israeli-owned Elbit Systems UK [https://www.elbitsystems-uk.com/] our politicians, and their apparatchiks. It's no surprise the willing media amplifies the lies and propaganda to deny Britain's complicity in War Crimes.


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The death toll among Palestine civilians could be greatly reduced as requested by the US and its allies…if the US stopped supplying Isreal 2000lbs bombs that wipe out everything apparently within a 350ft radius.
Not all who die as a result are Hamas fighters.
 
Sorry but that's Rubbish

HMS Diamond is an Anti Air Defence Destroyer, She does not (nor any of the Daring class 45s) have any capability of hitting a land based target (except for the limited use of the 4.5inch gun which has about 15 miles of range)

The only weapon systems we have able to strike in that area are Typhoons from Cyprus and any F35s That have been tankered down or Forward Based.

oh and tomahawks launched from a Astute if one is in the area.
Not out of Cyprus, I can categorically tell you that.
 
you sure?

all the press is saying so and even stated when they took off and returned. (19:30 - 03:00)
Yes.
I certainly didn't hear them and I was out here last night...unless that is local time .
I was out v close to where they will have been at 1930 last night and I certainly would have seen/heard them go out. But I was back before 9. If they went at 2130 I wouldn't have heard
 
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Yes.
I certainly didn't hear them and I was out here last night...unless that is local time .
I was out v close to where they will have been at 1930 last night and I certainly would have seen/heard them go out. But I was back before 9. If they went at 2130 I wouldn't have heard
Cyprus is 2 hours ahead
 
Well I am more inclined to believe an Eye witness / reporter stating the exact time they took off and returned and the fact their is video evidence of them doing so.

I'm glad you quoted specific “sources”.
If anyone is going to justify a position, “facts” are important.

BTW "Lemmy - Killmister” is with the RFA [as far as I know], and spent many years in the Royal Navy
(y)

I`m not getting into a slanging match
Good afternoon. (y)
 
Ease to five Roofie@😉
Not disputing it...just saying I didn't see or hear them take off, even though I'm v close to where they are.
And tbh I haven't heard anyone here saying "did you see/hear that lot last night" etc
 
Ease to five Roofie@😉
Not disputing it...just saying I didn't see or hear them take off, even though I'm v close to where they are.
And tbh I haven't heard anyone here saying "did you see/hear that lot last night" etc
Message received and understood (y)
 
Steer.
With all due respect.
You are way off beam.

For 98 days, the USA has vetoed General Assembly and United Nations Security Council Resolutions — along with the UK. Thus denying aid and humanitarian support into Gaza. The Zionist fanatics have bombed and murdered innocent civilians, the majority women and children, deliberately bombed shelters, schools, hospitals, UN Workers, critical infrastructure, “safe zones” [!!!], Rafah Crossing, displaced Persons camps - living in tents, food warehouses and communications. In addition, they have deliberately targeted over 100 journalists, who were reporting the genocide to the world. Human body-parts are scattered across neighbourhoods, and thousands are buried under the rubble. Body bags have been placed in mass graves dug by bulldozers, whilst the American Jets and Missiles murder yet more civilians. There is no fresh water and sewerage has filled streets. Disease is rife and children and women are being starved to death.

You call Israel a “democracy”? A home for the Jews? It is neither. To say what we see happening is in the name of Judaism is anti-Semitic. The Zionists use that phrase to shut people up and disguise their colonial expansionist project. The fanatical extremist settlers in the West Bank are murdering children and innocent civilians and invading Palestinian homes and removing people at gun point. They have run over the bodies of young children in their military vehicles and detained over 4000 Palestinians since October 7th. But, the fact is, long before October 7th, time began when the fanatics started to expel Palestinians from their land. The occupation began with the British Mandate, which was the handing over someone else's land, by one colonial power, to another.

Neither UK nor USA has supported or voted for a ceasefire. Both continue to export and arm the Zionist entity, whilst Israel fires the bullets and commits massacres daily: because their target is one ethnic group — The Palestinians.

That is not just “ethnic cleansing”, it's genocide.


The truth is, the USA and UK support the Zionist project and have a vested economic, geopolitical and military interest in the persistence of this vile regime. We are complicit: from the military top brass, our establishment, the big arms manufacturers, including Israeli-owned Elbit Systems UK [https://www.elbitsystems-uk.com/] our politicians, and their apparatchiks. It's no surprise the willing media amplifies the lies and propaganda to deny Britain's complicity in War Crimes.
It's like you are copying / pasting random things and picking me up on points that I have not made.

I did not mention "Democracy" once in my post. So you are arguing against something that I have not said. Nor have I posted my opinion on the terrible situation in Israel / Palestine, so everything that you have posted above is irrelevant to what I have actually said, and is irrelevant to the situation that we are actually discussing.

Anyway, as no grown up conversation can be had in this thread, I will leave it at that.
 
It's like you are copying / pasting random things and picking me up on points that I have not made.

I did not mention "Democracy" once in my post. So you are arguing against something that I have not said. Nor have I posted my opinion on the terrible situation in Israel / Palestine, so everything that you have posted above is irrelevant to what I have actually said, and is irrelevant to the situation that we are actually discussing.

Anyway, as no grown up conversation can be had in this thread, I will leave it at that.
Thanks for your comments. (y)
Always important, in my view, to look at the bigger picture. If I was quoting you, I would say so, but it's essential to look beyond narrow headlines.
Israel / Palestine cannot be separated from the US/UK intervention in the Red Sea, after the Yemen decided to take positive action to support the defence of the Palestinian people. It's clear where the UK/USA interests lie. It's with money, not preventing massacres.
 
Roofie instead of copying and pasting whatever reactionary source you are currently accessing, why not try to engage in the debate?
For 98 days, the USA has vetoed General Assembly and United Nations Security Council Resolutions — along with the UK.
The UK has not used its Veto in the Security Council. Vetoes concerning the Israel/Hamas conflict are as follows:

18 October 2023 S/2023/773 - USA
25 October 2023 S/2023/792 - China and Russia
8 December 2023 S/2023/970 - USA

So that first "fact"! alone is erroneous.
 
the Yemen decided to take positive action to support the defence of the Palestinian people
There you go again!

"Yemen" have not decided anything. Houthi rebels are the ones responsible

As for supporting the defence of the Palestinian people, if you think that is the motivation of themselves and their sponsors in Iran I have beans that you might be interested in.
 
There you go again!

"Yemen" have not decided anything. Houthi rebels are the ones responsible

As for supporting the defence of the Palestinian people, if you think that is the motivation of themselves and their sponsors in Iran I have beans that you might be interested in.
You really need to research your information.
Maybe that might be a good place to start?
Scenario's like the Red Sea don't occur in a vacuum and we might be better informed if we dug a little deeper than watching the BBC from behind our cornflake packets.

Yemen:
Why don't you go the whole hog and called them “Iran-backed Houthi rebels" - then you've really framed the discussion the way you want it!
I don't have to plagiarize information from one or any source. If I use other sources, I always quote them.

Try this: https://www.palestinechronicle.com/

(y)
 
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