Nosmo-King
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Watmore isn’t a frontline striker. Britt allegedly is
Blunt summary: "Does Britt Assombalonga’s Millwall omission signal the end for him at Middlesbrough?"[Gazette]
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Nosmo-King
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But Adi your stats show two things, he is living on a past reputation and can actually score when he can be ar&&d!
1 in 4 simply isn’t good enough
1 in 4 simply isn’t good enough
Adi_Dem
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As his stats over the term of his contract appear to support.
I am not arguing he has done well this season. I am saying that over the term of his contract his stats look pretty good. Even better if you think he has effectively downed tools this season, which I simply don't believe is true.
On that basis, I don't think it is at all fair to call him a disgrace. He hasn't had a good season and yet is still close to a 1 in 2 record for us. Disgrace? Embarrassment? Not for me.
Adi_Dem
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Agreed but even given that, to say he's not very good isn't really supported by the stats.
Nosmo-King
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Of course it is supported! What are you talking about? Watmore has been here 5 minutes and didn’t come as a recognised striker - and he is doing as well!
The effort and application is poor - very poor. I am surprised at you Adi trying to defend such a misfiring striker who isn’t worth £3 k a week - let alone £30k plus.The season and his contract vacant come soon enough
The effort and application is poor - very poor. I am surprised at you Adi trying to defend such a misfiring striker who isn’t worth £3 k a week - let alone £30k plus.The season and his contract vacant come soon enough
Adi_Dem
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Relax. You said that Britt is 'allegedly' a striker. My point is simple: his stats demonstrate that there is nothing 'alleged' about it. He has decent stats for a striker. It was not a comment about Watmore at all. If you want me to comment on Watmore it would be this: he has done really well and had a purple patch but his stats this season aren't really reliable as they are only based on a very small sample.
I am simply pointing out that his stats are actually pretty good and so to call him a disgrace and an embarrassment is over the top. Nothing more than that.
brattleboro
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which ever way you look at it,he has had a very poor season in front of goal,that cannot be denied,and so say all of us 
Nosmo-King
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Adi, as usual, will argue his viewpoint till the cows come home - even when he knows folk are talking about his return and goal scoring prowess ( or lack of) this season.
Current form as opposed to historical data - surely the yardstick to measure him by.
But our Adi won’t have it as it doesn’t suit his agenda - some things in life never change!!
Current form as opposed to historical data - surely the yardstick to measure him by.
But our Adi won’t have it as it doesn’t suit his agenda - some things in life never change!!
TheWolfman
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It's hardly embarrassing as Adi says. We bought him to play as a striker who we knew needed a partner. Pulis and warnock have both had him up front on his own. He was never going to score goals or create chances for himself. At times we struggle to create 3 chances a game and he needs 3 to score as do most in this league.
I think you can pan him for his work rate but only an idiot would play him as a lone striker. Funny how the first time warnock played 2 up top. Was on sat and he was nowhere to be seen. 2 fingers 2 britt??
I think you can pan him for his work rate but only an idiot would play him as a lone striker. Funny how the first time warnock played 2 up top. Was on sat and he was nowhere to be seen. 2 fingers 2 britt??
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Adi_Dem
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What are you talking about? I have been really clear as to what my point is, I’ve been very respectful of your view and have offered a counter argument. Only one of us is having trouble accepting the others view and could therefore be said to have an ‘agenda’. You say I am arguing my point until the cows come home. Tell me how that differs from your own approach. I suspect that may be beyond you though.
As is now customary for this site, posters choose to play the man rather than the ball, stifle any debate and generally makes themselves look really silly. It is becoming increasingly difficult to engage on this site because, frankly, some posters are ruining it with these sorts of ad hominem attacks.
I suggest you go back over my contributions to this thread and compare them with your own Nosmo.
Nobby_Barnes
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I'm with Aldi on this one and I've backed Britt time and time again on his goalscoring record.
His record speaks for itself, he was a 1 in 3 striker when we signed him and he's still a 1 in 3 striker, 45 goals in 144 apps for Boro (3.2 if you want to split hairs)
He generally been played up front on his own which doesn't play to his strengths.
You could argue he's done better than expected in a side that doesn't score goals with him in, or out of the team.
The problem people have with him is his transfer fee and his wages...how you can refer to Britt as a 'disgrace' Nosmo is simply ridiculous....
His record speaks for itself, he was a 1 in 3 striker when we signed him and he's still a 1 in 3 striker, 45 goals in 144 apps for Boro (3.2 if you want to split hairs)
He generally been played up front on his own which doesn't play to his strengths.
You could argue he's done better than expected in a side that doesn't score goals with him in, or out of the team.
The problem people have with him is his transfer fee and his wages...how you can refer to Britt as a 'disgrace' Nosmo is simply ridiculous....
TeaCider
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Where's the idea came from?
He played as a lone striker at Nottingham Forest, and we bought him for what he had done at Forest.
Saturday was also far from the first time Warnock has played 2 up top this season
He's barely scored any less than he did last season under Woodgate.
6 in 27 under Woodgate, 5 in 29 this season.
Warnock came in at the end of last season and he scored 5 in 8.
Assombalonga has not looked bothered this year, I don't think it's coincidental that the one game he's played really well in this season has been against Nottingham Forest.
Whether that's down to falling out with the manager or something else, I don't know.
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indeedido
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Assombolonga is a spud.
Dress it up however you want and his record at Middlesbrough is appalling value for money.
He has scored 15 goals in a season once here and only once at Forest too.
He has got 75 league goals in 7 Championship seasons, assuming the waster doesn't play for us again.
It is not his fault we paid a ludicrous sum for him or gave him such a big contract, but that doesn't stop his value being questioned. He has provided pitiful value for money.
Goals per minute is a function of goals scored and minutes played. The only person who has stopped him playing is himself and his awful form; there has been no other cap on his time.
He is easy to drop, too easy to substitute off and doesn't score goals.
He is also bone idle, makes nothing happen for himself and contributes nothing else to the team.
Of all the players to offer a defence for I am surprised anybody would choose this bloke.
I can't wait for him to leave the club; under 100 days after tomorrow.
Dress it up however you want and his record at Middlesbrough is appalling value for money.
He has scored 15 goals in a season once here and only once at Forest too.
He has got 75 league goals in 7 Championship seasons, assuming the waster doesn't play for us again.
It is not his fault we paid a ludicrous sum for him or gave him such a big contract, but that doesn't stop his value being questioned. He has provided pitiful value for money.
Goals per minute is a function of goals scored and minutes played. The only person who has stopped him playing is himself and his awful form; there has been no other cap on his time.
He is easy to drop, too easy to substitute off and doesn't score goals.
He is also bone idle, makes nothing happen for himself and contributes nothing else to the team.
Of all the players to offer a defence for I am surprised anybody would choose this bloke.
I can't wait for him to leave the club; under 100 days after tomorrow.
Nobby_Barnes
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You've proved my point in your first sentence Indeedido "appalling value for money'
It all about the transfer fee and wages isn it ?
We bought a 1 in 3 Championship striker...it's not his fault we paid £15 million for him.
What did we get ? a 1 in 3 Championship striker !!!!
indeedido
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I agree re VFM and it is not your point it is a point.
No we didn't get a 1 in 3 striker.
We will play 187 league games in his 4 seasons here and he has scored 45 goals. He won't even score 1 in every 4 Boro league matches.
Don't give him credit for not playing or finishing matches. He doesn't start or finish too many matches because he's cack.
His conversion rate is 1 in 10 chances and 1 in 6 in the 6 yard box. He is a spud.
Nobby_Barnes
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Pulis played him up top on his own for ages with the midfield nowhere near him. He's not a target man, but time and time again that's what our managers have done with the current obsession with playing a lone striker.
It simply doesn't play to his strengths, if I wanted to get the best out of him I would play as a pair with a big man for him to play off. See how many he would score then !!!
It simply doesn't play to his strengths, if I wanted to get the best out of him I would play as a pair with a big man for him to play off. See how many he would score then !!!
Nobby_Barnes
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187 league games ??? So you're now slagging him off for not scoring in games he didn't even play in...
UNBELIEVABLE even for you
